What's epic about 20 man raids?

this is made-up.

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What’s epic about having 40 players inside a raid with half of them auto attacking the boss and the other half playing the game.

After the 1 hour of roster boss as well.

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I like 40 mans. I like 20 mans. Why can’t we all just get along.

You make a good point. Hiding my incompetence is a lot easier in a 40 man.

Question is, are they seriously gonna give out thunderfury from a 20-man raid? Sounds extremely unfitting.

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being part of a large team is badass.

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Lol, it is still easy to see who butt pulls, who failed mechanic and wiped the raid, and who is bottom parser.

If people are ‘sneaking by’ in 40 mans it is because nobody is caring or the entire group is bad.

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It’s a feature, not a bug

I agree 100% it looks and feels badass.

Organising and efforts to get 40 competent players is typically more hassle than 20.

And with greater work should come greater reward.

Giving out phase bis epics for 20 mans (that are probably going to be insanely easy) just makes pve a bit of a dull grind.

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wasnt an issue in 2019 and in SoM.

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Kind of like the 10mans currently?

20 people is a large team :stuck_out_tongue:

i have 20man raids in Retail.

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Yes it was. How many people played SoM?

more than 39 plus myself. i cleared naxx in SoM.

And there’s 40 man raids in Era assuming they don’t make it into SoD.

yeah, I don’t think those 10 mans should be giving out any epics (maybe one single one per phase). Epics are already so common and valueless in SoD.

To make it worse many the low level 10-man epics are stronger than level 60 vanilla epics, so there has been insane power spike which has made the outside world totally undertuned. Which reduces the fun of leveling dramatically and helped amplify the current pvp issues.

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Nice you can clear Naxx again because you have era for that. 40man raids are also over in era.

It is still 1/2 the size of a 40 man team.

I would much rather they make 60 or 80 man raids instead of 20 man… those would be even more epic.

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