I used to be against it but seeing how salty some people are getting I’m 100% for it now
maybe all the complainers will quit and then we can play in peace
I do enjoy farming for my mount, actually. But even if I’m in the minority there, the point is that one should be able to get rewarded for putting time and effort into the game. The token’s implementation in retail did not enable that for me and for quite a few others who have commented in recent days on this topic. If your gold sink theory played out that way in retail, I’d consider it, but it did not. Again, there are not enough buyers in the system for it to work. What you end up with is incentivized playing of the system, and playing of the system is already naturally appealing to gamers these days. If too many people play the system, it breaks. (This is, incidentally, true of real-life economics, as well.)
Yes, bots have already flooded the AH. That doesn’t mean the token is the only way to fix it. The alternative solution is to remove the bots. Sadly, policing the system is not as easy, and probably not as profitable, for Blizzard as the “if you can’t beat 'em, join 'em” approach. I fully expect them to give in and offer a TBC token at this point, though I’m still holding out hope until it’s final.
I recognize the complexity and difficulty of this problem. The token at first glance seems like a reasonable way to solve it and one that Blizz can get behind. Unfortunately, it’s a solution that has already been tried and that had disastrous consequences for the economy in retail… unless you buy gold or you bot. Those are the two categories that benefit from the token. The average non-gold-buying WoW player, on the other hand, ends up with a cheapened experience.
Ignorance is bliss 
“ITS NOT PAY TO WIN!!”
Say what?
And a foot note. Tokens haven’t gotten rid of bottling in retail. 
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You realize that WoW tokens are already effectively in, right? There’s a blue post confirming that while it’s outside the bounds of anything they’d protect you from scams in, buying a wow token in retail, selling it for gold, and then trading retail gold for classic gold won’t get you enforced. Other than the nebulous “Unless you end up in a gold seller’s logistics chain”.
There is a discord dedicated to this, with hundreds of trades every day. You’re all just willfully ignorant if you think adding a token will change anything in a meaningful way. Or have a wildly out of tune understanding of what the token actually does. It doesn’t inject new gold, it provides a safe way for people to trade that gold to someone else. At worst, it takes gold from the hyper rich in classic, and gives it to people who didn’t farm from phase 1 to TBC.
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So you wrote a essay to explain how you don’t understand how inflation works?
Neat.
If you consider that an essay then I am quite confident you are the one that does not understand and likely won’t be able to.
Takes value from the rich and gives it to the poor who didn’t earn it, eh? Huh. That sounds familiar somehow…
I literally give him the textbook definition of inflation and he laughed at me and ran away. Dude is a troll. I would suggest ignoring.
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WoW already has a massive deflation factor that is the flying mount.
You pay almost 6k for everything.
There is no other source in game that will either consume this amount of gold or give you the same.
Plus, the natural inflation/deflation of gold already happens. People need to understand that WoW token does not introduce any new gold into the game.
Blizzard is not selling gold packs. Move on.
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The problem with this argument is that WoW Classic has proven that people will buy gold. They will buy gear and runs with said gold. They will do all of this and the literal only difference is who gets their money. The difference between the parties getting that money is huge as Blizzard does not have to use bots.
Raid loggers mostly; there are outliers in any case but it’s mostly raid loggers who are the most destructive component of WoW in any iteration.
Point the finger at me and my arena friends too because we’re not blameless in the damage to wow with homogenization to classes, but top tier raiders are also to blame here on that.
Overall it’s the addition of all the little things that we thought improved the game, things like being the player not the class, LFD, LFR, The Achievement system, and all the little systems and things that reduce the interaction in the game. Wow token is actually destructive in that same way because it takes the players out of the world and replaces them with bots.
The real tragedy is that gold is so easy to get in a legitimate way in TBC, more so than any of the 3 original games, and yet people clamoring for the wow token don’t know for some reason that it’s not actually needed.
Worse; wouldn’t be even slightly surprised if blizzard employee are shilling for the token in this forum.
No, they won’t. They will buy WoW token if they need only.ç
What is the problem? Are you competing with them in the GDKP runs and are you afraid to lose?
Run your own GDKP and gain money to beat them next time, or make your own guild to get loot or join a guild that distribute loot.
Why are you concerned about others gearing up by playing?
Blizzard gets their money, and there is no gold inflation because there is no gold being produced by the result of this.
Only the natural generated gold by players.
Blizzard is not selling gold, but you unfortunately lack the minimum intelligence to understand it.
I am extremely casual and mostly broke, but I don’t want this because it would lessen the value of the auction house.
Plus: this practice preys on people who would be willing to throw more cash to get further ahead in the game. People may be used to this from mobile game transactions, but you’re paying money to skip the game. Since that means there’s 1 fewer player contributing to the auction house then it encourages and pushes others to buy tokens.
People would 10000% buy the tokens since mounts are actually expensive in BC. The grind to getting gold is part of the game, and I don’t want an easier path, keep it longer.
For supporters of the token: in game boosts and gold farmers doesn’t justify this practice.
Apparently I will have to explain this at a more basic level as you appear to lack the capacity for abstract thought. The discussion is about WoW tokens which are sold by Blizzard. It is actually the title of the thread.
If Blizzard introduced tokens, then they would be selling gold.
As opposed to third parties who are selling gold currently and also run bots or hack accounts. Apparently that is your preferred method though.
No, I could care less about GDKP for my characters as they are in a guild. The argument, which you cannot seem to grasp, is that people are already buying that stuff and that the source is far worse than a potential WoW token.
As for inflation, that must be a joke. The prices on Classic are astronomically higher than they were in vanilla because of the gold market. I love your rose colored glasses though. They really bring out your eyes.
Might as well ask bliz to put all the top tier gear in shop for $ to. hence no one has time to quest and level surly means they don’t got time to raid either. this is the start of the end. might as well change the game name to bcretail because thats what is going on.
How are they selling gold? Seems like they are just serving as an intermediary between players and taking a cut to make it not bannable.
Yeah okay. So RMT isn’t RMT in this case.
You know, giving someone money for gold is RMT. Duh. It’s just that if you give someone money, and then someone else gives you gold, that totally isn’t RMT. Two totally different and completely separate things.
This is pathetic.
You lack the basic level of understanding for this whole topic.
HAHAHAHAHA! Did you really just use “No You!”? Awesome job, Sport.