You wouldn’t believe how hard Allied Races has turned me off from WoW. Thet took a common request, add more customizations to the base races, and then provided Allied Races. I have no faith in Blizzard anymore. Yes, they affected me that hard because if they can’t even do something like add more customization without making it greedy. Then I don’t know what else I should expect them to deliver correctly.
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Not everyone expresses things the same way. If Joenish wasn’t honestly saddened or mournful about the state of BfA, why would she post here?
People post because they care. Because they are passionate. The ones who don’t are just gone.
A good writer accepts a critical editor because that is the only way they can improve. Someone who reads their stuff, doesn’t like it, and walks away is someone they’ll never get back.
The devs are refusing to listen. That’s why we get feedback like “we wish we’d had this conversation in beta” about the Azerite system. When players in beta were SCREAMING to have that conversation.
The situation is upsetting and frustrating, ESPECIALLY to those of us genuinely upset about the state of things who want it to get better.
Your call to stop being critical was neither helpful, nor particularly respectful of those feelings and posters, even if it was well presented.
Yes, there is a lot of negativity in the forums right now: there are reasons for that, though. Both legitimate reasons based in game design and emotional reasons based in people’s experiences with the game being ruined. Please, be mindful of that, and realize that hiding that negativity does not serve a constructive purpose for the devs, and being prevented from venting does not help the people who are frustrated and upset.
And, if you would like to focus on some more constructive things, I’ll be trying to set up a few threads tomorrow with constructive design suggestions and detailed analysis of where and why certain systems have failed, even when they seem to mirror previously successful systems.
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I legit wish you luck, but I no longer posses enough faith in Blizz to think it will help at all. At the least, might be a bit cathartic for people to have the discussion before the inevitable trainwreck.
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When I look at the racials and perks of Allied races in comparison with classic races, the imbalance is really striking.
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I think that’s a question you should be asking yourself. You have yet to answer why your desire to share your feelings about BfA outweighs mine. You turned this thread into an insult fest. No one else here is doing that.
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Oh, I don’t think it will help either. I certainly don’t expect Blizz to listen. I don’t think they even read the forums unless it’s clearly a meme post.
I actually started the project for the MVPs. One of them was asking for “detailed, concrete changes that the devs could focus on” in a thread about the GCD changes. Personally, I think “see the way the game functioned two weeks ago? It was great then!” was plenty specific enough, but it got me building up some detailed, analytical design documents on WoW. I wound up pulling in and comparing elements from across the game’s history (aided by my old Main, whose Bank is a treasure trove of Classic nostalgia with items so old and obsolete their tool tips are glitched into illegibility).
So once I found I had that much stuff together, I figured I might as well lay it out in detail for everyone.
^^ Can someone please tell me how to ignore this poster? Is there a forum function to ignore a poster so that you do not see their posts? From their very first post in this thread, their one and only purpose in engaging me has been to troll me, insult me, degrade me, etc. I have tried responding to them. They refuse to knock it off. I want nothing to do with this person. How do I access the forum option to ignore them? I have looked and cannot find it.
You can’t ignore currently. Just don’t respond to them if you feel they’re not being constructive.
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I’m a fan of this approach. This game has too many versions and too much history to not be comparing the evolving systems over time. I really hate that gameplay is moving backwards…
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I feel that your effort demonstrates the love you have for the game. It’s constructive and well thought through. Whether it ends up affecting change in game or not, you will have made a difference on the forums.
That’s unfortunate. Ok though. Thanks for the info.
I personally would have liked it if they built the specs further from their MoP version instead of a complete overhaul.
I’d also appreciate their content more if I knew it would be relevant outside a specific expansion. Class halls being only used in Legion and then collecting dust to me makes me feel like they were a complete waste at this point. They didn’t attempt to keep them relevant in BFA in favor of forcing the war notion on the players. I’m tired of things being only relevant in a specific expansion.
Reforging to me is probably the best system they had provided us back in MoP and they removed it for being too confusing. Then provide Azerite Armor.
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Tell that to this guy…
Moving on.
Really? How about you start a thread titled “I’m new to WoW. Should I buy BfA?” See what kind of response you get.
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Those videos dont qualify as either “whiny” or “entitled” IMO. They all have vastly more likes than dislikes. Maybe, just maybe, you are bit overly sensitive on this subject and your interpretation of things like “entitled” is a bit inaccurate.
Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean they are being whiny and entitled. Cheer-up butter-cup
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Like I said many of those class changes are worthless, and will not help with many of the broken classes. Just get on the PTR and check them out, like i have with my broken classes. I refuse to pay blizz cash for a fotm toon, that has lasted for four months now, and will remain fotm due to crap changes. Since leveling is so painful. Instead i only have three weeks left on my sub.
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Crowlay I have seen a lot of posts of yours that I agree with but these in this thread are over the top good. Thank you.
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Calling people “whiny” and “entitled” for having a different opinion qualifies as “over the top good” to you? Or is there something I’m missing?
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It’s gotten to the point for me where folks that use ‘whiny’ and ‘entitled’ just don’t get a response. They’re not looking for a constructive conversation, they’re looking to argue.
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Do you remember Crowlay from other threads over the past several months? I do. Like I told him, I have agreed with him many times but tonight I have seen him shine because he has been able to easily respond to every question and rebuttal.
if you or anyone else chooses to zero in on two of the many words he has spoken tonight, there is nothing I can do about that. I believe he understands where i am coming from and since the compliment was meant for him, that is what it matters
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You know whats funny. Many picked on the WOW clone MMORPGS when they came out. The ones that stole much of what made WOW great. The thing is those RPG’s are now getting higher reviews then WOW. Since WOW has decided to change their vision over the last three xpacs.
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