You destroyed BM, full out destroyed BM
10% ST nerf and maybe 9% buff AOE - Putting us still 37% behind MM
with the Changes you putting us last ON ST now and Last in AOE.
What the hell were you guys thinking.
Who in the right mind would even think or consider this a good Idea.
Who ever though of this HAS NO CLUE WHAT A BM hunter is or how it plays 0 clue.
Please show us what brain dead data you looked at for pass 3 weeks to make you think this is a good idea. Get it together Blizzard this is a J/K.
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They should just remove Basilisk collar fully.
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Just pull the Oct-9 changes Blizz and do proper work in 11.0.5 (go and read our feedback).
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So instead of a 10% damage nerf overall it goes to a 15% overall damage nerf? LOL what are you on?
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Might as well. If you’re going to amputate, you don’t just do a 90% job. It’s got to be clean and full. That also means we stand to get a better talent in its place.
Almost like Double Tap to Tactical Reload, except the former was really just vestigial and wasn’t really needed because MM evolved past a use for it.
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This is messed up, I haven’t been able to really play my bm this expansion I just do delves because I’ve been so depressed with the state of my favorite spec, and have been playing my warrior. This is a sad time to be a Bm Hunter.
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This is some serious cope to believe Blizzard will give anything in return when what they thought was equal damage in return for losing 9% Single Target was buffing our AoE by basically nothing lol.
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If we’re talking about BM’s track record, I don’t have a reason to believe it would be bad. It’s different when MSV can’t be rolled back; the groundnerfing of BM IS reversible. I would go easy on the copium until we get Blue posts that spiritually say, “Umm, because we rather you didn’t play Beastmaster.”
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So you’re saying BM just needs to sit tight and not say anything about being last in Single Target damage, last in AoE damage and basically useless to bring for any M+ or Raid team now. Is that what you’re saying? Not to post how idiotic it was for Blizzard to push any of these nerfs without waiting for the .05 patch changes? Sorry I’m not just going to sit silently while specs exist that absolutely crushed BM on the meters go untouched and some were even buffed yet BM somehow gets hit with the hardest nerf any spec has seen so far in this expac.
Removing 26% pet damage (5 DoTs on target) is absolutely insane and thinking that buffing Kill Command by 18% is going to offset that is wild thinking.
MSV is literally doing insane DPS in M+ right now…there is no reason for them to complain. If you’re talking about a change that literally happened back in Legion like 8 years ago…dude why are you even still talking about that? If you want Ranged Survival just go play Cata or something.
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Also this is equally dumb to say…please point out to me where Blizzard has said “we’d prefer you didn’t play X spec” besides the dumb comment in a video like 9 years ago by Ion. I’d like to see a blue post that was EVER posted about any spec saying they’d rather you didn’t play that spec…they don’t exist because Blizz CS and Devs would never get away with posting that crap on the forums.
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Yes, I’m already there. Classic is the future.
Dude, why have you forgotten? Those who FORGET history are DOOMED to repeat it. Look how vocal it was when MSV became a thing. After FOUR long expansions, ranged has eclipsed melee. Guess what? We’re only promised The Last Titan. We’re not yet promised more than two more expansions.
So raising Hades over this won’t fix this, it won’t stop what’s coming. At least not within Worldsoul and WoW could stop right then with no more expansions.
We all knew this was coming when Augmentation became a new role, first off. That means fewer DPS would be brought. BM, let’s be fair, always had a slot. So for the first time in 8 years, the spec is finally getting benched. But there could be something big that new Microsoft interns and project leads are discussing at the office this very moment.
Give it enough years, and we’ll forget this was ever a problem, just like MSV losing the war vs. RSV also a phantomic memory.
Short version: we all may have to be a lot more FORWARD thinking. You seem to care too much about the present when you don’t go “conquer the past to command the future”.
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You’re interacting with the village idiot and is the equivalent of arguing with a brick wall. Best to just put them on ignore they’ll feed off your attention.
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The class community is dealing with a crisis right now and you’re not welcomed. You would be if you actually played the class and didn’t buy your way everywhere.
Edit: Incoming transmission from your god, hero, and master.
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Why would they roll back melee survival? What could a ranged survival spec possibly have at this point that isn’t already elsewhere in the class and spec talents?
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Ranged survival was the most fun hunter spec that’s ever existed in wow…
Ranged, instant cast proc based spec. Terrific and easy aoe - multi shot applied serpent sting. Good cleave - chimera shot. Good single target damage with stacking dots.
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I’m starting to think that you are Snozay’s alternate account or maybe you’re just the second village idiot living in the same village as him
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In an esoteric sense they did. If you lived through the Borrowed Power says, the 
was the only thing that mattered. However, the melee abilities were tacked on.
Good question, because what’s there to roll back? SV never really meleed for long and when it did the most, nothing else sucked more at it. It just got buried by more important abilities to do.
We have the historical data(and I’m not going back to jail for it) that shows SV did it best with Mad Bombardier. So to actually make SV a real melee spec, it would have to be redesigned all over again. It probably won’t even be anything Leg-SL Hunter mains would recognize.
He seems new. I don’t know his story. He was actually someone who consented to the BM turbonerfs before launch. That’s not my position, because groundnerfing BM won’t make right post-Leg SV’s terribad legacy. I just laugh at the irony, that nobody cared about how good or bad MM and SV so long as BM did good and better.
Now it’s literally the end of the world, the same as when the MSV nukes fell on this class at Legion.
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It’s because SV is barely played and MM is not liked that much by most people so why would Blizzard have wasted time on those specs. BM on the opposite side is one of the most played spec after ret pally
I agree. That’s why we need a mitosis. Make BM its own class and give MM and SV their own class.
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And yet they are buffing ret again…
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