Why are there so many losers in WoW today?? This used to be an interesting diverse community spanning a broad spectrum of personality types but now it’s just a bunch of lazy pot-smoking losers who give up every BG even if it’s pug versus pug the second Alliance have a 10% lead… to reiterate I am not just talking about the massive uphill battle of fighting some Alliance premades, but actual pug vs pug. These are the same people who leave after 1 loss on retail arena queues who hate voice chat.
It’s actually ridiculous. I don’t remember this many weak willed morons in original TBC, nobody is creative, nobody wants to find a way to win, if you try to lead people don’t care and are 100% apathetic. Why are you even playing the game???
Get off the internet and go get therapy. You don’t belong here. Obviously Blizzard is partially responsible for the shift in the community they attract, I guess years of catering to weird whims with poor design vision has taken it’s toll. I don’t believe the AVERAGE millennial (typical WoW player age group) is this way, but the game definitely seems to attract the LOWEST of the LOW.
It’s VERY difficult to find fun and interesting people to play with.
Retail and it’s expectations of instant gratification happened mostly. Most of the people I talk to and play with came from private servers and we are having a great time in TBCC.
It’s just that the type you’re describing are all that are remaining, the types who are fine with cash shops. Pay2Win mentality dictates that if you can’t have something right away then it’s not worth your time, so when there’s a 10% lead it’s time to give up.
For many, their weakness has become their ability to provide and succeed because of the attention. For others with that same weakness, they drown without the proper help they need.
It seems to be partially true. I’ve noticed since the last few years that Horde is full of pot smokers and stoners and alliance is full of spiteful asmongold wannabe jealous incels that want to destroy everyone else around them because they cant be successful leeches on Twitch/YouTube.
Horde might be full of stoners, but the overall community of the Horde side is more friendly and helpful to one another than the alliance is. I’ve played both factions over the years and you kind of get a feel on how the overall people and community are on each faction.
It just depends on how you define loser, I suppose. Some people might argue that being a grown adult who spends 8+ hours a day playing video games is winning.
I did a lot of premades in Classic, on both sides.
I did some premade ABs today on my alliance with a group that was not in discord and was not great at /BG communication. Not many requirements either although I have PVPed with a number of them in the past.
We kept 5 capping horde over and over again. They’d turn and run away and not try to fight at all. I was really confused at how these guys who sat in queues for so long didn’t even want to try. In all the premades vs pug games I’ve done in the past these were the most timid groups of horde I’ve ever seen.
Prepatch the attitude from alliance pugs and some horde pugs was terrible and frustrating enough in certain games.
I like battlegrounds so the general pug attitude is kind of sad.
I’m talking about a mindset and a way that you approach life, no matter what you’re doing. Gaming is a perfectly fine hobby and even a lesser form of creative outlet for anybody, including adults, as long as it’s not ruining your life.
It doesn’t seem like it to me. It seems like you’re talking about your personal preference, and using ad hominem against anyone who doesn’t follow that.
This is quite harshly worded.
I think, “I don’t like that approach to gaming, and would prefer to play with others.” may have been a better way to state it.
Yeah you’re right, the nhilistic and apathetic attitudes highly common to most of the BG groups I’ve been in lately is a great valid and healthy approach. We just differ in “preference” lol.
I’m not advocating against your preference, nor for a different preference. But, that’s really what this seems to be; a preference in how others around you approach the game.
Yeah sure, I mean it’s kind of a pointless distinction to make. It’s like the nerdy kid in the back of the class pointing out that “some horses are born with only 3 legs” when the teacher classifies them a four-legged mammal.
Yeah sure I have a preference that people who play PREFER to play, and not NOT play while playing lol.
Slightly off-topic and perhaps a bit too philosophical for these forums… but you brought it up so I’m just curious…
What is so wrong with playing video games 8+ hours a day? If an individual has a full-time job and pays their taxes, who is anybody to criticize what an individual does with their time? It’s nothing new, only something I’ve been thinking about recently, but there’s always this insistence, even from the time we are kids, that you have to go to college, meet the perfect person, fall in love, get a good paying job, get married, have kids and live a white picket fence life, and this is the only way to live a happy life.
What if that’s not the lifestyle for you? What if you don’t want to live a “white picket fence” kind of life? What if you’re happy just playing video games? Is there really anything so inherently wrong with that? Why does it make you a “loser” if you don’t want to live that kind of life?
Some people may get joy out of raising family, and that’s fine. But it’s not for everybody. So why do those people get singled out, mocked and name-called? Who said having kids and getting married was the one and only way to live a happy, fulfilling life?
And for the record, this is not intended to be a personal attack. I’m not criticizing anybody specifically… I’m just curious.
Couldn’t agree with this more. I’d say a solid 50%+ of the players on my TBC realm I come across have some kind of glaring mental health issue. It’s even worse if you join a community discord, and see how troubled people are, and how unfun it is to play on a server with them.
Intuitively you might assume it would, but my guess is that a bunch of losers as I’m calling them, have been beaten into submission by the fact that we’ve been getting at least 50% matched into Alliance premades (Arathi Basin this weekend mostly obv) who completely out-gear and pubstomp Horde pugs, so then when it comes time to fight pugs Horde are already conditioned to just give up.
The problem is, I remember MANY uphill reverse swing battles in original TBC, I remember TRYING to beat premades and even succeeding at least… I don’t know feels like 30%+ of the time back then?? I have won ONE pug vs premade in all of the tons of BGs I’ve spammed since TBC came out and it’s only because a multi-glad healer in my guild figured out a super low effort WSG premade breaker strat.
