What is the argument against merging solo shuffle and 3v3?

Overwatch and most multiplayer games work like this. In overwatch you can queue as a party of any size or by yourself, and if you like your teammates you can choose to re-queue with them.

Solo shuffle and 3v3 both have their own unique problems. I’m sure a combined flex queue would also have its own unique problems, I’m just trying to figure out what they are?

The main one I can think of is solo players complaining about getting stomped by premades, but I think mmr should accommodate for this anyway right? If you are 1500mmr as a solo player, and you queue into a premade who is also 1500mmr, I think it should be roughly equal?

Lemme lay spread eagle for the smurfs.

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It’s pretty hard to smurf in a game that requires you to get to max level and max gear every time you want to make a new smurf. I don’t see how flex queue will be more vulnerable to smurfs than 3v3 or SS?

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Shuffle and 3s are completely Different video games.

But yeah solo queue from the start should have been flex queue merged with regular 3s. Nobody asked for solo shuffle

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I mean 3v3 got a problem with shuffle not the other way around, dont make us plebs pay the price for a dead bracket.

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Listen I’m with you, the only people holding on to 3v3 are washed up elitists who deserve the death of their game mode that they have gate kept for all these years.

I just wanna play some games with my homie lol. It’s supposed to be a mmo after all.

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Letting premades q solo shuffle is a terrible idea. Wintrading and unfair coordination would be issues.
You wanna q premade 3s, q 3s against other premades

Can you respond to this please?

Can you please explain why flex queue would be more vulnerable to win trade than the other 2 game modes? I don’t get it?

Would suck the fun out of the chaos, might aswell have ranked skirmishes.

Solo should be a single 3s round but rewards are the same but with a ground mount as a 50 wins reward while 3s should exist with the glad mount and other rewards to incentivise people to actually play it.

Blizzard doing blizzard things and making everything have some stupid gimmick to it like blitz

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Make it 1 round 5v5 1 healer ranked.

Blizzard will be blizzard and make it into a mario party minigame sorry we cant have nice n simple thangs nowadays

What is your argument against merging SS and 3v3

I suggested exactly this years ago but my idea was not very popular on the forums. If they did this it would MASSIVELY help queue times. If it’s too hard for 1 healer to heal 4 dps they could just give healers a +30% healing buff and -50% cc duration buff or something like that to balance around the game mode.

Nah, would be a yolo thing for fun, not a sweatlord basement mode. BlizZ wouldn’t go for it because it wouldn’t be “skill based”. They can’t stand to see fun ingame.

Mario party

Without proper balancing then it wouldn’t be fun. Every game would be 4dps zerging the healer down in the first 20 seconds. I think 1 healer 4v4 makes more sense actually, probably much easier to balance but would still hugely improve queue times

I’m sorry I’m still not understanding the argument

Packed House ranked. I dont think there is a way around it. I’d have more fun doing 1v1 ranked, ticks all the boxes. Would be fast, could aso have titles based on % per spec.

I think you’re part of a small minority then because I don’t think many people are thirsty for ranked packed house or ranked duels lol.

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Packed house was a joke, but duels with static damp would be nice.

All the blitz players trying to get rank 1 duo with healers. Would be the same so that the % based rewards would only be achievable through premades. People care about perceived fairness of their matches.

Does any currently successful game allow full premade vs soloQ?