I know it was inevitable to lose players/activity with Diablo 4 coming out and Phase 3 but the game seems dead. Maybe mostly everyone is just raid logging, but I couldn’t find a BG group for the entire day for a few days in a row now. Dungeons are pretty dead as well. I’m assuming everyone is raid logging and playing classic era/d4 but could be wrong. Mostly all the players I did manage to do dungeons with recently all could barely speak English and did not understand their classes at all. I don’t know… just feels bad. I figured we would see some loss during p3 but didn’t expect the game to be dead outside of raiding so early and raiding seems like the usual gatekept shenanigans. People wanting 5k+ GS for one of the easiest catchup raids makes coming back feel bad as well.
It’s probably the result of not having RDF & them adding the WoW token, was the straw that broke the camels back. Then add raid gear changes that can upset the PvP balance that isn’t true to how Original Wrath was and boom: you have yourselves a dead game.
Retail isn’t doing that much better atm either tbh
At the moment it seems most of the player base is playing Classic Era Whitemane cluster. That seems to be the go to for WoW atm.
This isn’t my experience at all. And the fact dalaran is a laggy mess every tuesday and most thursdays, im gonna say there’s still ton of people online.
I think most of the population is here for the raiding. And when the only thing you want to do is raid, which has week long lock outs, you’re gonna have people raid log. Doesn’t mean the game is dead. There just isn’t a reason to be logged in every day of the week.
if you know that why are you asking ? people play other games and next year we are done with wrath , there is one more raid to go
because people can’t get it through their head that we are not the same community that was around back in 2008 or whenever wrath was retail, we also have more tools to communicate with people outside of the game. why do i need to sit afk in dal to talk to guildies when i can go play another game and talk to them in discord?
also the lack of rdf makes it hard to spam dungeons and annoying to level up new alts so people are less likely to do that and more likely to just go play something else.
and most of the playerbase are older people with responsibilities so they can’t sit in-game for 9 hours at a time after getting out of school like we did back in the day.
New acti-buzzard devs happened to wrath. Left out features, added retail features, bugs, bots and gold sellers left to fester. Surprised they have what customers they have left. Can’t wait to see what the end of wrath, has for them…lol.
Because it’s sad to see Blizzard not care about the game at all and to make it worse there still is no RDF so alts and open world are ghost towns
Lots of things.
- People realize that Wrath isn’t such a great spectacle as everyone remembered. Same as it with Vanilla, TBCC and now with Wrath.
- RDF is not in the game. So open world is dead. Very few level alts. Joyous Journey only promotes solo play and not group play.
- Bots are everywhere. 2023 and Blizzard can’t have a decent anticheat in place.
- Arena is full of hackers as well. See point #3
- RMT is like Black Plague. Blizzard does absolutely nothing about people buying millions of gold via 3rd party websites.
- Very little pug content that does not include GDKP runs. So new players either have to RMT gold or find a spot in a guild that would take them.
7, Devs have very poor communication skills with the playerbase. They don’t take our feedback and take months to fix bugs. Some bugs are NEVER resolved.
Pick your favorite.
Most people just raidlog and some do daily dungeons for badges and log off.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, that pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly. Came back expecting it to better, but Blizz gave up years ago and did zero things to improve what the community has been complaining about. I would play classic era but unfortunately spent too much time on my toons getting rare achievements, mounts…etc to quit and go to classic era. I would say Classic/TBC were pretty good maybe because the play base at the time, but it was the closest to the OG experience. It only got worse and worse as people started getting into that min max gold cap gdkp mentality as the game progressed and people can give 2 craps about the social aspects which make the game what it was.
This is what I’m doing – raid logging, daily dungeons and then off.
Not for any of the reasons you listed here but because I did all of the time sink and alt/professional leveling and dailies and crap back in 2008.
I don’t do any holiday stuff. I don’t do any achievement stuff. I don’t care I don’t have a 310 flying mount. I don’t have a load of pets, mounts or anything else - been there done that.
Speaking as someone who quit Wrath in March and will not be back, and who knows many others who also quit (although I don’t know if they will come back) the game just is not fun for me anymore, and it no longer offered me the experience that I came back for in 2019. When I’d log on it would feel like a chore I was doing for my guild, and I’d log out as soon as I was done.
I think Tesalyns list there is decent, that poster has said they enjoy Wrath, and that’s good because I’d say a list of reasons from someone who’s still having fun is more accurate.
it’s not just Blizzard products that people are playing, there’s a whole wide world out there. Part of this game is what could be called an addition that keeps many people (I don’t want to speak for all) logging back in. When that hook is out it’s easy to swim away and do totally different things.
Anyway, good luck out there if you want to keep playing Wrath. Hopefully, you are able to find a few like-minded people at least.
Where/how does it seem dead?
I can’t speak to your server or activities, so I’m curious as to what you are doing that you find it dead.
Personally, I’ve been very busy in game with lots of things to do between raiding and PvP, though admittedly, I am not focusing my time on leveling character after character.
Do you normally find groups for BGs? That’s interesting! I’ve seen people complain about BG premades during WoW Classic, but haven’t seen much about them since.
Are you downing heroic anub 25 with a full raid of 4K gs geared players?
Yeah maybe classic era eventually would be best for me then. I enjoy leveling/social aspects of the game the most and raiding becomes a chore/job and is outright boring. If it wasn’t for the gear that dropped idk how many people have “fun” raiding unless they are with a bunch of friends. That is essentially WoW endgame though, you raid the same things 100 times hoping to get lucky and repeat and after that’s done you do it on your alts. I remember in WoTLK Naxx we only had 2 Turning Tides drop out of all those months of raiding. I basically got the first when the phase was about over.
You absolutely should try Classic Era if leveling and the social aspect are your things. There are lots of people doing the same, which means that you won’t only see people but you can find dungeon groups for the leveling stuff.
For that matter, Blizzard has just revamped the PVP system which has gotten people more interested in that too so when you hit 60 you can probably find those BG groups you are after.
Roll on Whitemane for a PVP server or Mankrik for PVE (Mankrik horde is kind of sparse though). Or you could wait for the hardcore servers and do that challenge but yes I think you’d just enjoy Era, and this is a good time to do so.
A combination of factors. Some subjective. Others people just aren’t willing to admit
Me personally? I’d love to play my Druid or DK more, but everyone else just does their daily dungeon or raid logs so I’m forced to do the same. Started leveling a new hunter alt but I expect without RDF to make dungeons more readily available, I imagine the leveling process is going to be just as quiet and lonesome as it was with this Druid
It was greatly mismanaged.
Dead game feeling stems from the server you’re on. I was on Atiesh for the longest time and it felt dead, now I’m on benediction and it’s always busy.
Wotlk was always a raid logging expac. And you would see just less players raiding if you couldn’t.
Do not feel there’s really a lack of people for the endgame content. But sure a couple choices they did were not really great but that’s mostly in Blizzard fashion. They often fix the problem by taking a convoluted way rather than fix the core of the issue.
Game (and the community) isn’t friendly to new players.
I’m speaking for my alts. Level 50-70 was even more dead than the lower levels and finding a BG is impossible. If my guild was able to clear Ulduar HMs on out alts I’m sure Anub would be way easier.