What happened to the gritty dark fantasy we once had?

No they really dont have depth. I guess you just arent a big enough fan to realize it?

Fromsoft is notorious for putting cryptic item descriptions in games that serve no purpose other than to be enigmatic and weird.

You know what the greatest JRPG by far is?

Pokemon RBY. And it had practically 0 story.

Gamers dont like stories. They never have. Look at fortnite.

I dont really consider consuming high quality art to be a waste of time.

Video game stories are not high quality art tho.

I’m enjoying 8 well enough but it’s doing the very Final Fantasy thing where I think the gameplay mechanics are interesting except they’ve made 1 or 2 of the most insane choices ever.

I think 7 is good and one of the top FF stories but still a bit overrated. Probably a byproduct of having played it years after the fact and the internet hyped it up as one of the greatest things of all time.

I recently started a new account to give it another go and I found ARR to still be a slog. It’s particularly bad in patch content because they slow your XP gain to virtually nothing, so you’re not even leveling anymore. It’s like they put the whole RPG on hold for a few hours.

Though to be honest, I don’t find Heavensward to be the masterpiece people told me it was, either.

That is half of the way the story is told. Its for the players to put together and reason why it has such a deep lore obsessed fan base.

They serve a massive purpose. Your chosen ignorance of a game with story doesn’t change that.

So you didn’t play them.

Well aware I likely bit a troll lure.

I mean their name is literally “pulemy” …so…

Honestly, it sounds like you DON’T want to engage in the story on principle. Complaining about a stort being told in linear fashion or that it’s getting in the way of the gameplay? That’s like complaining about water being wet.

That doesn’t mean FFXIV’s story is bad.
It means FFXIV is absolutely not the game for you.

No more, no less.

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get more people to stop playing. thats the only time blizz will care. they dont care about our gripes on forums. they do care about their stock price and money.

Although Warcraft always had a goofy side, I, like you, would prefer a less goofy Warcraft.

But we’re not going to get it. They probably attract more players with the goofyness.

You would have liked Warhammer Online. Unfortunately they released that game with a terminal bug. The end game revolved around capturing territory but it was bugged so you could never capture it. It took them so long to fix the bug, the game was already dead. I came back and played it after they fixed the capture bug, but it was on life support.

Ah, gaming.

So you didn’t play them.

Brother Miyazaki has inspired me so deeply every romhack Ive worked on and story I wrote has borrowed ideas from him.

Miyazaki cares about story and gameplay being diagetic.

That doesn’t mean FFXIV’s story is bad

Pokemon RBY is by far the most popular JRPG to ever exist…and it barely had any story.

Yep Ive always hated final fantasy. Its dumb weeb crap. FFX Is one of the worst games I ever purchased.

Also some horrible balancing issues when BWs could AOE through walls.

It’s fun for those that are playing for the story alone, fun is subjective.

You’re probably here in WoW instead of other games, because in WoW the gameplay generally comes before anything else, and the story is an afterthought.

In FF14, it’s kinda the other way around, the story comes first.

There are good MMO stories, but you’d have to realize you’re in an MMO in the first place, not reading a novel or watching a film.

Of course there’s gonna be breaks that ruin the tempo, naturally because of the genre.

But that doesn’t mean MMOs cannot tell a good story, then can.

I love WoW for what it is, but Final Fantasy destroys them in the story department, and likely always will.

I dont think the game lasted long enough for them to address balance.

I seriously dont understand how they released that game with the capture mechanic not working. Thats what the whole thing revolved around. Crazy and such a waste.

Ive seen all the dark souls deep lore dives…

It is literally the simplest story imaginable. And deliberetly so.

Its literally just “light the fire to keep the cycle going…or dont”

And its brilliant. I love it. But if it was an HBO show they would have nothing to work with…

You can still play it today tho it still has problems of players exploiting.

It’s fun for those that are playing for the story alone, fun is subjective.

They can go read the WoW books if they want the story…(which are bad btw)

I think the obsession with making games into films is a mistake.

Just look at the recent the Borderlands film, lol.

And Street Fighter, several years before that. Terrible.

The Halo series.

The Mario Bros movie is the only video game movie of recent memory that didn’t go terribly. And it’s because it’s probably the most well-known game ever to exist.

Reading it as such does shed light for sure, I read it as a name not a pun or wordplay.

Welp, fed the troll for today I guess.

It’s a shame we can’t get a MMO that has both because I’d enjoy FFXIV more for the story if the actual gameplay didn’t feel 10 times worse than WoW’s.

The game calculates everything about ~0.25 seconds before you’re shown it on screen and you can’t change it, and it drives me insane.

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Yeah, there would be a good middle-ground ideally, between both games.

If FF14 had WoW’s combat and PvP, I’d still be over there.

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