We’re not even in beta yet. I’m reserving my judgment for when it hits - it can go very wrong sure, but if they handle it right it would be for our benefit in the long run once they remove layering. As it is right now we have no idea how they’ll implement it in the end, just what it is.
If Blizzard leaves it in and it’s just as bad as sharding, then I’ll judge it harshly. But prematurely jumping to conclusions is pointless.
Its simple, they decided to shard the whole continent together to make people phasing in/out less noticeable. And everyone with half a brain can see it will be used every time pop rises, i.e. each phase start month.
I see Blizzard’s ploy to rename it to reduce backlash worked on you.
It functions exactly the same. If you get invited to another “layer,” you disappear. There are still multiple instances of the world (now the entire world, rather than a few select zones) all functioning in the same realm’s economy.
It presents all the same issues sharding does.
Yet there are people here defending it. It isn’t necessary.
Yeah, it’s lose/lose situation for the devs. They could risk dead servers without it or upset those people who don’t want it.
I didn’t play at launch in vanilla. I remember what made me want to play a troll though.
On my first character in the Undead starting zone I saw a troll on the lvl 40 raptor mount. Being that it was on a high pop server with que times, I switched to a new pop and rolled this shaman. There were 3 or 4 alli that were skulls to me and everyone in the zone was after them. Just hate to think that layering could cause me to miss out on something like this.
I don’t entirely understand what you’re saying here.
I agree in general, people need to be careful about making assumptions. Personally, I don’t even 100% fully trust things Blizzard says anyway, since they change their minds sometimes. I’m just going to wait and see what actually happens, and I will make decisions based on the product itself.
It makes me laugh to be honest, all the retail players storming to the Classic forum at the moment.
How many times can Blizzard fool you?
“It’s just alpha, they will fix it”
“It’s just beta, they will fix it”
“The first patch is not out, they will fix it”
This happened in BfA, Legion, WoD, Pandaria. And you still believe everything Blizzard tells you? Sharding was supposed to be for launch and the starting zone. It has been extended to the whole server for the few weeks that phase 1 lasts. And we don’t know how long it’s gonna last, probably more than a month
Phasing in and out is a pretty big problem, so people staying on the same layer no matter what (until they reset it) is better.
They changed the name because it’s not the same thing. Instead of sub-zones, it’s an entire continent.
I don’t have an active sub and refuse to play retail. I’ve been asking for vanilla servers for nearly a decade at the very least.
It was not specifically targeted to you. Just in general no worry
My English is not great, yeah.
What I mean is people were warning that starting zones/month only are not confirmed. And if a company didn’t talk on a topic its a confirmation that the answer is not what most players want. For example now Blizz won’t ever open their mouth on the topic of layering at later stages. And that on itself is a confirmation that there will be layering later on. I don’t intend to argue about that, just remember it and when it happens simply say to yourself “that forum idiot was right”.
But it’s not “free”. People will phase less but will do it all over the game. So it’s arguable if it’s “better”.
So it’s just continental sharding.
But it’s still sharding.
Hey guildmate X
There’s no Copper Vein here, invite me real quick
Ok, invite sent
Oh there we go. Thanks
#classicexperience
This is all speculation. If it only lasts a short while at launch, and is only there until they see the overwhelming amount of players logging in at any one time is lowered to a manageable level, then I think it’s fine. Blizzard has to do something to stem the massive tide of people who are going to be logging in to try it.
It sounds like layering is less intrusive than sharding, at the very least. And that’s better. I was already accepting of sharding if it was necessary.
Exactly.
Why are any of you trusting what Blizzard is promising, when Blizzard keeps moving the goalposts?
Of course it’s a speculation, the same way as only 1-10, only for a while, only at release and never again ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
I’m taking a position of cautious optimism, whereas you and others are taking a position of outright pessimism. You believe Blizzard is lying to you and doesn’t care at all and will ruin Classic… with zero proof.
Good to see we’re back where we started when people cried WoW was dying with every little change they disagreed with.
They keep changing their stance regarding what Classic will be, and what sort of sharding will be implemented.
Regarding proof… how many times do I need to post this video before you people listen? They said one thing about sharding; now they are saying another. They 100% cannot be trusted until a finished product is delivered.
This isn’t concrete proof. This is showing that Blizzard understand that there cannot be sharding or any other system like it once P2 hits, and they thought at the time sharding was the best tool. Clearly they’ve changed their mind and think layering is a better tool… and it is.
Where are you getting this, “sky is falling sharding is forever” bull?