Ion literally says, “we think we can use sharding”. He did not definitely state it would be sharding, nor have they said it was guaranteed - they even had a post talking about if they can avoid it, they will.
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Layering could have an impact on the people I run into/could run into in the game. Given that what I liked about vanilla was the interactions I had with other characters, I’m a bit skeptical on this whole layering issue.
Yeah it’s not really great you might miss some people as they’ll be in other layer, but at least it’s only for month or so, until tourists leave, it’s best alternative we can get to sharding.
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“We think we can use sharding there,” is what he said.
And, well, sharding isn’t being avoided, so not sure what you’re getting at. It’s just being rebranded as “layering” and hopefully it will maybe work as promised, but we won’t know until launch.
My only point really is wait until the product is delivered to praise Blizzard. Video game companies are notorious for lying, because there is no accountability.
If layering is actually eliminated a month after launch, that’s great. But I’ll believe it when I see it. You should, too. Corporations that take advantage of addictive behavior are certainly not your friends. And in a world without accountability, there’s no penalty if they don’t deliver the product they’re currently promising.
Since you’re so skeptical, wait it out, don’t play first month, wait until layering is gone. No one forces you to go play. And it’s not same thing as sharding, shards had like 50 people per, layering is 3000, that’s way bigger.
You’ve never played on a server with layering. You have no basis to say one way or the other. You’re just blindly believing what Blizzard tells you, even though Blizzard does not always deliver on its promises.
Neither have you, you’re hating on something you haven’t even tried yet, that sounds much better than sharding.
You’re just blindly hating on Blizzard.
I’d rather layering on the entire continent which is proposed than the sharding options that would result in zoning in and out of shards when swapping zones and the lag that comes with it.
Layering seems like a reasonable compromise for now, all we can do is hope they keep there word that it goes in the first patch when they introduce the world bosses.
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I read the back of the WOTLK box where it said there would be aerial combat.
I know from experience that video game companies can’t be trusted until they deliver a finished product.
No, I have historical examples of times Blizzard has said one thing, and not delivered.
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They claim it’ll be gone by phase 2, and possibly in first month, and world bosses aren’t since phase 2.
Wotlk was planned for flying in wintergrasp, but they couldn’t pull it off in the end. Classic is done product, just needs polishing, we know what to expect. But you keep on hating for sake of hating.
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I cited an example of a promise not kept that was literally on the back of the box of the retail product for WotLK.
We don’t know what to expect from Classic because they keep changing how it’s going to be implemented. For example, the sharding to layering change which was just announced this week.
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Then don’t play until you see if layering will be gone. Seriously, they won’t drop it just because you’re complaining about it, it’s already a done solution. Wait it out then, miss out on the launch.
Not the point at all. You’re arguing Blizzard can be trusted for no discernible reason. I’m showing proof that they can’t be trusted until they release a finished product, and I’m providing tangible examples.
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I’m believing that layering will be gone because that’s what they always claimed, they never said sharding will be permanent thing or even be in Classic, they said they wanna use it to avoid dead realms and to handle the launch period, which is what is happening. If you wanna go believe that they’ll keep using it forever, you go do that, I’ll stick to reason.
i can see both sides, but still question if it is necessary. Zones I can think of would be the PVP queues. We used to gather outside and queue and then while we waited at say Silverwing we would get bored and run down around to Mor’shan or Horde would come up to Silverwing and we would have some world PVP that would lead to Splintertree and Raynewood retreat and or down to Crossroads.
So I am not sure how that will effect it. It would be great for dead servers, and having a limit will be great for SSvsTM; hoping the social aspect of knowing the players on your server, server reputations is not limited by this.
Cheers!
This was actually my entire argument against sharding in the first place.
It was the people defending sharding that said it would only be in the starter zones, and I had to continually remind them that Blizzard never said that.
Lo and behold, those same people are now defending sharding everywhere, because the reality is those people just wanted sharding but didn’t want to admit it.
I was right not to believe the “it’ll just be in the starting zones for the launch” lies.
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No.
They said there would be sharding in the starting zones.
Now they are saying there will be layering until “Phase 2,” whenever that is.
They are claiming different things at different times. I don’t know why you are so adamant to believe them when they just changed their stance on sharding this week.
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That’s the problem with it and sharding, yes. That’s why they’re using it in the initial tourism phase and then getting rid of it. It might not even make it to phase two’s release.
This isn’t like vanilla’s launch. It’s likely a good portion of the people who try it in the first week don’t stay, so that would lead to dead realms and other problems.
Except you’re wrong. This isn’t sharding, it’s layering. It’s over an entire continent rather than a zone or subzone, and it’s going to have fewer overall layers - so you’ll see more people. If there are a hundred people in the Valley of Trials alone (quite possibly more), there’ll probably be two or three layers there… and those layers will extend over Durotar, Barrens, Ashenvale…
Nobody really likes the system, layering or sharding. It’s just necessary.
Lol, what a deja vu.
How many times people said they are afraid that sharding is a slippery slope and that “only starting zones” were never confirmed. Yet Blizz fans were swearing that people are dumb to not see the 100% confirmation its only 1-10levels.
And now it was never confirmed. Of course it was never confirmed. But you need to go and tell that to the fans that insisted it was confirmed.
Btw you can remind them to now to start explaining us that layering is not a slippery slope and how we can’t see the 100% confirmation it won’t be reintroduced on each content phase.
People are so naive.
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