What exactly is Blizzard doing?

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Bunzo-azjolnerub

People were expecting a Legion level content expansion after 2 post launch patches of Shadowlands… but luckily I did not…instead of a double meat footlong subway sandwich we got a 6 inch clean the palate veggie delight

MoP only had 2 significant content patches (Throne of Thunder and Siege of Orgrimmar), had over a year drought, and we got WoD.

Trying to equate transitions between expansions means nothing.

[Sinelius-proudmoore]

The extra man power has been directed to the 2 new wow mobile games.

[Sentenzà-illidan]

@Frara-blood-furnace

That is not really more than what was revealed for DF imho…

I was expecting the reveal to be more akin to the Blizzcon Deep Dives we got, considering that Blizzard has called their little videos “deep dives” and that this reveal was a replacement for Blizzcon.

[WoW: Legion] Games Systems Full Panel - Blizzcon 2015

No, you can’t tell me that what we know about Dragonflight is as deep and juicy than the kind of things we were hearing before Legion came out.

Now, I guess I will eat my words if Blizzard announces they’re doing a Blizzcon 2022 later this year to fill in a lot of these blanks, but Legion was announced in like… August? And then Blizzcon 2015 was in November. So unless around the time we’re getting 9.2.5 Blizzard is going to go really into detail like this and give us more of the meat of Dragonflight, I’m skeptical there is more meat.

[Frara-blood-furnace]

@Sentenzà-illidan

Blizzcon

I would also hope for a Blizzcon or at least Blizzconline.
We may see.
But to bring back the Topic.
We know nothing yet.
There is still time to learn more.

And going by the recent pace of Interviews I’m fairly impressed to say the least.

[Akroth-herod]

@Sentenzà-illidan

No, you can’t tell me that what we know about Dragonflight is as deep and juicy than the kind of things we were hearing before Legion came out.

I won’t argue that, but I will say that Dragonflight is probably way farther out than Legion was at the time it was announced. I wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t get Dragonflight early Summer of next year.

[Evilmuffin-uther (Evilmuffin)]

@Sentenzà-illidan

New =/= good. The better question is why do people insist on jumping on a hype train only to end up getting mad later.

That’s the lovely thing about being completely jaded towards Blizzard now. Anything they say is met by skepticism by me, now (and for a while, tbh). They’ve ridden the gravy train far too long, resting on unearned laurels, imho.

[Petemolyneux-hyjal]

no extra content

@Water-tanaris

Uhmmmm…what?

Yeah, you really can’t take people seriously anymore when they start saying things like “no content”. It’s just not even a discussion having. They’re on another planet and have bizarre expectations at this early stage.

[Byniri-zangarmarsh (Byniri)]

@Petemolyneux-hyjal

They’re on another planet and have bizarre expectations at this early stage.

OP just needs to quit and move on with his life. He’s been non-stop whining about no systems in Dragonflight since it was announced.

[Birds-stormrage]

@Bodybagger-turalyon

We don’t need, systems etc
Please keep that away from the game.

Literally every video game has a system. This is why Blizzard shouldn’t listen to GD.

[Sarama-firetree]

@Chroesire-bleeding-hollow

Seems like the system soup stuff from the past two xpacs has been traded in for the new talent system and zones bigger than those in Northrend, which seems like a solid trade to me.

That’s great if you really love DR but talents are pretty one and done for a lot of people.

[Tuullnn-proudmoore]

@Sentenzà-illidan

I don’t actually understand. Is this brain drain from all of the firings? What is going on?

Thankfully Blizzard fired most of the toxic employees that were known to be homophobic/transphobic and did horrible things to minorities and women in the company. Are you really trying to defend these types of people just so you can have more content?

[Chroesire-bleeding-hollow (Chroesire)]

Everybody has their tastes, but personally I don’t think talent trees and talent tree analogues should be particularly “interesting”. They’re best when they’re just plain old talent trees.

Even if it means less “stuff” in an expansion it’s a net win in my book.

[Frara-blood-furnace]

@Sarama-firetree

lot of people.

you can’t make everything for everyone …
We can’t get back the pre guide time for WoW, where everyone would just pick what sounds good.
If people want to shut off their head and just put in whatever the guide is telling them, let them. more power to them.
But I heard a lot of players and streamers really excited about talent trees.

[Mynero-sargeras]

@Sentenzà-illidan

Honestly. So we know that Dragonflight is launching with no extra features, no extra systems, no extra content, no class lore, no class quests, no class flavor, nothing but 4 leveling zones, a new Race/Class hybrid that has a leveling experience likely the same size as DK/DH (that is to say, not much larger than Exile’s Reach), 4 leveling dungeons, 4 M+ dungeons, and a raid.

What a lot of people are misreading here is that Wrath of the Lich King is slated to come out this year. It hasn’t even been a year since TBC released. What that says, to me anyways, is that Blizzard is not even close to having Dragonflight in a presentable state and only announced the game to get players feeling engaged and excited for the game again.

So what do they do? They pump out WotLK instead to keep players interested in playing through the inevitable content drought that we’re going to hit relatively soon. My bet is that WotLK will be out before the end of Summer.

We probably know nothing about Dragonflight because there isn’t anything to show right now. If you remember, the general content cycle was expansion → Classic → expansion → Classic, and its been that way since 2018. Now it’s expansion → Classic → Classic again. I don’t think that was unintentional.

Basically, don’t jump to conclusions about what the expansion has. We know nothing about it and that’s probably because the game isn’t close to being ready for public consumption.

[Chroesire-bleeding-hollow (Chroesire)]

We do know at least that DF Alpha isn’t far off. Blizz has said so in streams and there’s already DF alpha builds on Blizzard’s internal test servers, likely for the friend and family alpha. Most things point to public alpha opening in maybe a couple of months.

[Robokappa-sargeras (Robokappa)]

@Sentenzà-illidan

Honestly. So we know that Dragonflight is launching with no extra features, no extra systems, no extra content, no class lore, no class quests, no class flavor, nothing but 4 leveling zones,

Where has their manpower been redirected? I don’t understand.

What is going on?

we asked them not to add any of those things so they are not adding any of those things.

just like we wanted.

if we want a shallow, easy to make experience at full price so badly, they are happy to fulfill our demands.

[Viseriôn-illidan]

See Everquest 2 owned by Daybreak Games - Maintenance Mode - Small Expansions - Microtransaction based model

See Everquest 2 Executive Producer - Holly Longdale

See today - Blizzard announces Holly Longdale as the Executive Producer of WoW

See WoW turn into EQ2

[Urdana-moon-guard]

You drink from a tainted well and you are going to just have to get used to dysentery, when their biggest concern is instilling a D.I.E chief instead of replacing some of their bad eggs, DF will likely be the last expansion with any measure of joy in it but you can bet your muddy bottom its all downhill after that so my advice is to enjoy DF for what it can offer while it lasts.

[Thallia-sentinels (Thallia)]

@Sentenzà-illidan

So we know that Dragonflight is launching with no extra features, no extra systems, no extra content

How do you know this? It’s not even in alpha.

[Byniri-zangarmarsh (Byniri)]

@Thallia-sentinels

How do you know this? It’s not even in alpha.

There is a progression system for the more casual playerbase that they have not dived into yet, that I know for sure.