I rewatched the War Within cinematic and he’s so upset talking about what he’s done and I don’t understand what was so bad about it.
Yes he was mind controlled, but when he attempted to kill the Archon he failed. When he attempted to kill the player, he failed.
What exactly did he do that was so bad? Did he even kill anyone?
Seems like he’s just upset he was mind controlled, and he’s also upset that he liked inflicting pain. Maybe he’s struggling to integrate the newly discovered darkness in his own heart.
Sounds like you do understand then. This is basically his core problem. Anduin built his entire self-identity around being a healer and peacemaker. To find that a part of enjoyed inflicting senseless pain shatters that self-image and that’s a pretty destructive thing for anyone. People really like being able to know themselves and to be proud of the person they are.
i think he keeps forgetting he was mind controlled lmao
if he liked it then, and not now then duh…i just hope he grows up.
its been like 3 yrs in wow time and he didnt do anything.
Essentially he finds it troubling that a part of him liked the power he had in evil.
I kinda understand what your point is here. We all get crazy thoughts - I’m sure in the heat of an argument we’ve wished in our head something that we would never enact. It’s a very human thing.
Perhaps Anduin should embrace that the feeling is OK. Heck if I was able to ressurect 40 Maw minions a sec after my enemy kills them, I’d be impressed with myself too (referring to the video Jailor catches us after rescuing the Primal).
Anduin to player in Hallowfall: “How can you even look at me, after what happened…after what I did to you? I tried to kill you.” (I don’t know if you needed to do Sepulcher in SL to get this dialogue, but the character I took a screenshot of that text from had.)
To Anduin, who thought he could convince Garrosh to change his ways. Garrosh. Garrosh Hellscream. The thought of even wanting to kill someone is abhorrent.
And not being sure if that desire to kill someone, to kill those he cares about, was his or not is enough to mess anyone up. I’d certainly be upset if I suddenly got the urge kill my friends and family…
He thought he was the Light’s special boy too and found out his faith wasn’t enough to save him… Others probably interpreted what Sylvanas’ last words to him were differently, but when she said, “you fear you might not be who you thought you were” I took it as her calling out his hubris to some extent while also trying to be sympathetic given her own path (whether you disagree with how her story was written or not.)
Faerin later points out that it was probably that he felt free of what’s always expected of him… I mean I’m not the only one who thought he looked like he didn’t fit into that armor at the start of BFA, am I? Like it was intentionally made too big for him? He wants to be a priest. He wants to heal. He always has. It’s why we chased him all over Pandaria.
Domination magic is inherently traumatizing. It didn’t matter that he didn’t kill the Archon, we don’t know if he canonically killed any Azerothians in the Shadowlands. But it doesn’t matter either way, because being magically dominated fundamentally disrupts who “you” are in this universe. It’s why everyone who has been magically dominated has some sort of issue with their soul.
Anduin says its because he liked the feeling of power he had. But Faerin points out that maybe it’s less about liking that darkness in his heart and more about liking letting go of being in control.
It was his first encounter with being mind controlled. He’s never done any real PvP before, so in a way he’s crying about losing one PvP match years ago.
I’m guessing it would feel a lot like a constant state of sleep paralysis where you’re aware of everything you’re doing but don’t have control of your body. So I think they’re trying to convey this sense of pain/regret/anguish but I don’t think it’s just limited to the domination magic. It’s also related to his sense of failure as a king and being a poor successor to his father.
He was basically in hell and forced to be a pawn of the devil and for all we know he killed a lot of other people off screen.
That said his separation from the light and huge character shift feels like there was content cut or missing to explain the huge change. Plenty of others were effectively stuck in hell and are like, yeah that was a Tuesday.
Anduin actually made that rather clear. He said that when he was forced to attack Kyrestia the Archon part of him actually enjoyed it. As a result he felt that “The Light” had abandoned him.
This brought on PTSD which we know is a real thing that happens to people and much of it may be driven by the same thing, realizing that part of you had always wanted to cross that line that you didn’t even like thinking about.
To be fair, people tend to forget Anduin has a fear of chiming bells after MoP and Garrosh using him as a mallet for the Divine Bell. Enjoying stabbing the god who’s entire realm is nothing BUT bells is actually somewhat reasonable.
