What do we think about Ret becoming a "support healer" in 11.0.5?

this is true tho on logs for raids and keys and sims

ts was already made viable and arguebally still is. people just gtota eat a 3-5% dps loss. not like they play at a level wher ethis % will matter

yes but thats due to ep being bugged to be proced on every damage instance so a 5% proc chance turns into a 25% one which is competative enough.

these are all truths.

Yea, those were my arguments. I simmed even worse for TS, but yea.

at max ilvl ts is around that margin, but again very few ret players touch their sims or play at a level where this margin would matter.

alot of this ts and csaa fight would disappear it people just take the damage loss of it for their personal enjoyment. auto attack replacers will always be better than active buttons

You’re proving my very point. In order to maximize BoJ, you MUST take Expurg and IBoJ. You have no choice in your math equation. That’s 2 points you MUST add on. In my choice, I only have to take 1 point in TS to do equal or superior damage.

As I stated to someone else earlier, sims, although are good, are not necessarily accurate because it doesn’t take into account the actual combat situations. As an example, the last boss in Stone Vault. There’s too much going on in that scenario running from the boss to get csaa full benefit, from the curse he gives you in order to purge, moving around the spots on the floor or his frontal; you’re constantly running around. With TS, all I need is a second or two to get the full benefits of the combo, and I’m good.

As I’ve stated before so this bares repeating…

You’ve always bring up valid points in the past and I highly regard them so this isn’t a debate, Per Se in which I’m trying to one-up you; never my purpose here. Just an honest conversation in which hopefully I’ve brought my point across.

That being said, may the Holy Light bless you dps meters in M+, blasts your enemies and represent to all others why we paladins are the greatest class ever created. :wink:

We’re having a conversation on how to be the best paladin we can be. We’re sharing information.

Who you arguing with??? (looks around) It sure ain’t me. :wink:

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LOL yes, that’s the one time I’ve found myself wishing I had TS, but instead I’ve taken to not running out the pools as far as I should.

Yours too! If you like the mechanic you like the mechanic and I’ll try my best not to crusade against it, although that’s kind of our shtick…

And anyone who wants open gcds in the rotation for “utility purposes,” have at thee!

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I saw what you did there… :slightly_smiling_face:

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