They are competitive for everything below the Mythic Raid level. If you only plan on doing normal and heroic raiding, delves are competitive to m+. For some classes, the trinkets that come from delves are actually superior to raiding and m+ trinkets at the normal/heroic level.
Whatever you like, including finding something more interesting to play. 20 year old game is not getting any better, even with Metzen under the roof. It was a hail Mary, and it still failed.
Players have frowned uppon and ditched any sort of progression with excuses of:
- Timegating renown
- Timegating power
- Timegating (insert the name here)
So yeah, once you’re done with everything just m+ and raid log.
I can’t speak for anyone else but my end game never includes raiding and M anything…
My end game is mostly:
Grinding leftover reps
Grinding currency for mounts and mogs I want
Leveling alts through current or old expansions
Farming old mounts and mogs I want
Occasional pet battles for pets I want
Taming new things with my plethora of hunters
Delves have been enjoyable for me, when I feel like doing them
Running old dungeons at my own pace so I can actually enjoy it
Still enjoying the game and having a lot of fun for the things I like to do. That’s my end game.
Play it like an MMO instead of a co-op game. Instanced group content in an MMO is not ubiquitous or necessary. So many WoW players are hyperfixated on fluff side content and missing the forest for the trees. To me the gearing is just an irritant to knock out, in the way of playing the game rather than the game itself. Infinite ‘Number go up’ inflation goes nowhere, it shouldn’t even be a thing. Most MMOs have abandoned it a decade ago or more. MMOs are more about shared spaces and virtual economies. WoW instanced content has more in common with Payday heists or MOBA lane battles than MMOs.
Pretty much yeah
Blizzard abandoned PvP and Delves aren’t really content for normal people
Hi I’ve got a pretty diverse group of friends so maybe I could provide a few perspectives here:
‘The bois’ - IRL friends:
M+ log to KSH+ Portals and then play another game. Before this season it was just KSM. Luv ya Jack n Drunk.
’The casual guild’:
Aim for 4/8H and more if we’re lucky to go further. Mostly old people in our 30s-50s. Perfect for me as I’m an irregular shift animal.
They go for some low keys and seasonal collectables.
’crazy amazing collector girl’:
One of my besties collects everything. She’s doing Shadowlands covenants, Amirdrassil for fire owl and heaps of Mount farming. Delve achievements, fun raid achievements, you name it. My dragon Step-mom
delves are a couple weeks of content, maybe a month at best.
If that’s all they are for you, that’s fine.
They’ve kept me occupied. Play the way you want.
Just curious what you’re getting out of it once you hit 619 gear and maybe do zek++
I mean I got the entire Mythic tier appearance set.
You can push past 619 with delves.
The lull time between raid tiers is generally the time I spend doing my collecting.
I finish up any achievements I had on the back burner.
I become a bit more completionist about my profession trees.
I fish (I get that not everyone likes doing this, but I do, and I do more of it between tiers).
I collect the battle pets that I missed or put off to do later. It’s later, now.
If there are any reputation-gated things I wanted but never finished getting, I do that.
I mean, your question is very open-ended. What you do between seasons in any given expansion will depend on what you like doing. Lots of players will not do any of the things I listed. They’ll do battlegrounds or farm cosmetics in old content or roll up an alt army or hunt rare mounts or…whatever else people do.
There is a LOT of content in this game. You need to find something you like or–as many players who only enjoy raiding/dungeoning do–take a break from WoW and play something else until season 2 drops.
When you break it down this way, to the 3 main forms of content.
WoW has become incredibly stale and boring.
Unlock the mythic transmog then repeat on an alt until the season ends or you run out of alts. Alternate playstyles for maximum amusement.
What do you mean “has become?”
This has been WoW’s primary endgame for decades now. The only difference is that the only type of PvE we used to have were raids but now we have M+ and Delves as well.
WoW is an EXTREMELY simplistic game at its core, even when you participate in modes like Classic Hardcore, Season of Discovery, or really anything else that follows the same type of endgame core WoW has had since Vanilla.
Events like Plunderstorm are intriguing for PvP players but, it is still a form of PvP if one want to break it down to a simplistic description. The same thing apply to things like Mists of Pandaria Remix.
If you find WoW stale and boring now, you found it stale and boring 10+ years ago. Maybe you were fine with the gameplay and liked it back then, but now you don’t? Doesn’t make it any different from back then, only your perception of said experience has changed at that point.
It’s extremely slow going beyond 619 to the point it’s not really worth it imo. The appearances okay yeah. Be interesting to see how the s2 change works for gearing
It’s not that bad. I didn’t get most of my gilded crests from relying on the terrible RNG maps, I got them from getting my gear high enough to convert runed crests up.
I have no interest in M+ and don’t have a schedule that allows for regular raiding so this is the avenue I had for advancement. I’ve very much enjoyed having it
Being extremely slow was specifically something the casual/solo/whatever crowd said would be acceptable before delves were a thing
I did that too for my weapon but it was way too much of a slog to go beyond that. The delves themselves are a super bore after the first few times and it’s a trickle of crests. Like I said maybe S2 will make it feel better.
My plans are to get portals in M+, AOTC, achieve Duelist in arena, and play at a 2000-2100 rating in RBGs. If I accomplish all of this before the season ends, I’ll go farm mounts.