im not rly, i saying both of those things aren’t going to happen.
Have fun with that.
Blood Elves aren’t somehow more honorable than High Elves were.
All this discussion is irrelevant. You’re clearly vested in wanting the High Elves to be less than, maybe because you’re afraid we might get them?
Every side acted on it’s own for it’s own reasons. The Dalaran High Elves stayed there because it made sense. Why would you go to a war zone with no known backup? Why would you leave the one place you can sate your addiction without hurting anyone or anything?
The Blood Elves did what they thought was right. They sated their addiction. Generally speaking they wantonly killed elementals (who don’t reincarnate, and will not go back to the cycle) for their own needs, and ultimately chose themselves over everyone and everything else.
You want to argue one is better than the other? Do it on your own.
I’m out.
They indeed are, you know the name blood elf? is to honor the fallen victims of the scourge, the dead of that tragedy, while high elves spit on their memory keeping their old name, because they don’t want to be associated with then.
ah yes, one thing we can agree.
im vested to make the truth be told when people start their headcanons.
sure, im 13 years afraid of it.
are you serious? to protect their home? their friends and families? they are mages, powerful ones, are you telling me they can’t help? lmao
please, stop romanticizing the situation
First and foremost, every source say mana wyrms are generic critters:
Mana wyrms are small, simple, glowing critters that float around feeding off of stray pockets of arcane energy
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mana_wyrm
they are again mentioned as beasts
Mana Wyrms are neutral level 1 beasts found on Sunstrider Isle in Eversong Woods.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mana_Wyrm_(mob)
they, like mana sabers, are listed as beasts:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Beast
Even if they are elementals, (who apparently they aren’t) you are saying elementals don’t reincarnate and do not go back to the “cycle of life”, this is completely false, elementals can only be true killed in the elemental plane:
On Azeroth, elementals were bound to the Elemental Plane by the titanic Keepers, which means that, when slain in the physical world, they will return to the Plane.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Elemental
(((See? this how you provided canon source to back up your claims, not made up statements and headcanon that you think are true)))
inb4: since this strategy didn’t work you are going to say they “torture” the critters, and thats “immoral” and thats why the high elves didn’t want that
In fact, blood elves were actually doing the normal things, just like we kill any other animal
i mean, you are the first one trying to argue who is the right elf and who is not, who is the purist, the proud and all the other nonsense.
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Nope. Honoring the dead doesn’t make your choices honorable overall.
Despite all of the Alliance fleeing to the Horde.
We have literally nothing left to our name and you’re still worried we’ll get something nice.
The Alliance is so far behind the Horde that we wait half a year or more for cross-realm raiding because the Horde reaches 100’s of clears while the Alliances is still in the 20-30 range.
You know what,I don’t care. There’s just no value here. There’s no reason to have this talk.
Sleep well, friend.
honoring the dead is a honorable act, if someone do and the other don’t, make the math of who is more honorable please
ah i see that - seeing you were wrong - you deflected all the discussion to play the victim card, how low can you go? point out gramar, made up things, ad hominen and ad passione
Here, let me bring you to the real world.
- you do not speak for the entire alliance
- the alliance is not fleeing to the horde because of the lack of high elves.
- What is this about about having literally nothing but your name? can you be more dramatic? the alliance is nothing because they don’t have an elf option? the other races matter more than an irrelevant race
- the raiding scene of the alliance is not in this situation because of the lack of high elves, you are trying to imply that but its just false.
- High elves will not solve the alliance problems, don’t try to paint like it will
the appeal to emotion never worked before
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stop please
Originally I thought they actually sucked people’s blood because of that name.
Acting like we don’t know what high elves are is honestly a slap in the face.
Drinks 
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Theres also 3 human races on the alliance (and an extra one on the horde). 2 Draenei races, 2 gnome races. And Orc’s come in 6 different flavours over on the horde. Whats your point?
Yeah. Everyone knows that Blood Elves are just a different flavor of High Elf.
What people have been asking for is to be able to play those blue-eyed High Elves they see as Alliance NPCs, and be able to play them on the Alliance faction.
It’s not hard, but people do love to misrepresent.
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Barely.
What has really stumped me though is how blizzard has handled this race so stupidly.
Firstly, they should have been an original core alliance race in vanilla instead of night elves. And should have never been seen on the horde.
But since that didn’t happen, and they were pretty adamant about the fact that high elves = blood elves and the alliance won’t be given a copy/paste of a horde race, they had the opportunity to do away with all the Alliance High elves in the form of void elves.
Instead of making void elves a splintered faction of blood elves, why not just make it so that alleria teaches the remaining high elves on the alliance how to use the void? Sure, people would get mad, but blizzard already “made it clear” high elves for the alliance wouldn’t happen. But they didn’t do that. Alliance high elves are still a thing
This leads me to believe that alliance will get high elves some day in the future. Maybe when subs drop low or something
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She does however speak the mind of a large portion of the Alliance, Highelves have been highly requested since day one. This is undisputed, as its still an ongoing topic even today.
Actually, you’re kind of wrong.
Remember back in Vanilla, when the Alliance population dominated with something like 75% to 25%?
Know how they fixed that? By adding bloodelves onto the horde.
It’s a tried and tested method of fixing faction inbalance.
Again the raiding scene did actually come down to arcane torrent for a good while. I’ll admit I’m not a top level raider, so nnone of this really applies to me. But casual raids are hard to get into on alliance because of the unbalanced factions. Again, elves have proven to have a big impact on faction popularity.
Not all of them, no. But, it would be a solid step to balancing the population, AND it would be a good step for the Dev’s to give the message that The Alliance plaers arn’t just being spited.
Because the Dev’s have made it pretty clear for a while now that they don’t like the Alliance or its players. And thats really disheartening for them.
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With the weird way that Blizzard has handled all this so far I’m honestly not sure if they would ever add them for Alliance. It doesn’t seem like it’s a rational argument… It’s Ion channeling his old forum-raging Elitist Jerks persona. Blizzard’s employees seem to think they are actually in the Horde IRL and act accordingly. It’s really weird.
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It seems they’ve done everything in their power to make it so that there still is a faction of vanilla high elves throughout everything. Even when horde got blood elves back in BC, why didn’t blizzard make that ALL the high elves, and have them all leave the alliance?
I don’t think blizzard is being malicious toward anyone. That would be unreasonable in my opinion.
What are they waiting for? I don’t know
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There’s enough Elves is my point
I think as soon as everyone learns the real reason why most people ask for those High Elves not Sin’dorei be allowed to be played by the Alliance then allot of the bickering and arguing will stop and maybe the Devs can learn something, because the release Ren’dorei and the comments made about Alliance and High elves shows how out touch the Devs are with the Alliance Players/Community. Exact quote can be heard at 1:20 on the video below, rather Smerky towards Alliance players. Makes sense though after this years April Fools Joke. How they feel about the Alliance.
Based on my experience and what I have seen through out the Pro Alliance High Elves community the main reason people want the High Elves not Sin’dorei is the fact that Alliance High Elves been participating in the Alliance lore and story over the years, with quest lines in the Hinterlands through the training in Northrend to the support missions they do for the Alliance though to BFA by holding portals open of training our characters, its not based on looks or hair color or blue eyes, it based on a love for them for being there with us as Alliance Players through the time we have played WOW as Alliance players.
You call them NPCs, or say there are not enough of them, or they take away from the Horde story if we get them, I say something that has been there this whole time is nothing new, you just haven’t experienced / or spent time with them on the same level the Alliance player has. Ren’dorei are ok but not asked for, High elves, you know the ones that hold our portals open, the ones we spent time getting their mounts and tabard and pet, you know the ones that attack a horde player when they see you, the same High Elves you Devs keep putting in the 7th Legion, Those are the High elves we want , not some variation, or some hurry up here now shut up variation, we just want the ones that have been with us the whole time.
Thanks for reading all just my 2 cents.
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Blood Elves and Void Elves the only playable vestiges of that particular faction of High Elf people will ever get to play.
Why would you want to play the most boring of the High Elf choices anyways?
They effectively have no lore comparatively to the Blood Elves, and Void Elves have been around far less, and have comparable lore, and it’s doing nothing but expanding rapidly, by comparison. And it’s far more exciting.
I suppose I’m personally going to relent on basically heckling people for wanting High Elves (which boils down to eyes) but as far as I’m concerned, High Elves of the Lordaeron Alliance are basically as bland as humans of Stormwind.
High Elf lore boiled down to “nuh uh Kael, you’re on crack, and we don’t like it, so we leave now” and a stint during Wrath as a faction area.
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Gnome’Dorei pls.
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That’s like asking why people want to eat a kind of food. Just because avocado is mostly a mild, relatively bland green, flavor doesn’t mean people don’t like it. Not everything needs to be salty, spicy, or sour.
Similarly with High Elves, not everyone wants edgy story flavors. Sometimes you just want the basic flavor because it’s still a classic.
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