To a degree, i understand what you’re saying. Why work at it when theyre gonna just change the game to what it is now in retail anyway? However, if anything, this is the time to play it BECAUSE of that fact!
The moment they make anything cata, that’ll be the day that it just goes into the early retail stuff. All the quests will be the same as they are in retail and the map will change to that of retail. So now especially is the time to just enjoy classic while it’s still classic.
Horizontal progression is a necessity for games with slow content release schedules, like guild wars and elder scrolls online. They literally cannot afford to do vertical progression. They need to keep what little content they have relevant.
Not even saying this as a “wow player” I only came back last year after a decade-long hiatus. At that time I was sweating gw2, eso and ff14 for years. It’s not a terrible thing, but it is what it is, I still played them to death, and even held world record scores and speed runs. Eso gets 1 raid (trial) a year … its not sustainable to go vertical, gotta milk it, and gw2 isnt any better tbh, hell even ff14 is slow on content, not on the level of gw2 or eso, but it is, I waited damn near 2 years for the new ultimate dragonsong.
I think the biggest issue with all versions of the classic servers is that there is no innovation, no new added content. Take Old School Runescape for example, despite going back to the old school style, they have also implemented meaningful additions to that version of the game that was fitting with that version.
Whether its new quests, new mini games, new bosses and all of these things potential changes get polled in game and implemented if the majority of the playbase is in agreement. Their transparency with their community about the planned updates to that version of the game is what not only has allowed it to thrive, but completely overtake the original version that still exists today with its own updates .
If blizzard did something similar, and allowed the community for classic to actually dictitate which direction they prefer the content to go, maybe that would also attract people with this mentality. Like where is all the cut content that had planned but scrapped? Why not try and add it and see what the community thinks, I feel its a missed opportunity imo.
I mean, you say that like wow is particularly fast on content? Ff14 has a super consistent release schedule, and they definitely get content out just as fast as wow does (maybe not classic, but that doesnt really count with how accelerated the classic release cadence has been). Ff14 isnt really horizontal though, its just got a really robust level scaling system.
In any case, while you’re right, the opposite is not true, a game with a fast release cadence doesn’t NEED to be vertical.
Blizzard are just too bogged down by corporate greed and beaurocracy to ever do something like that.
Garmuck crying again.
So I’m someone who has grinded a lot of achievements, mounts, titles, transmog, etc on retail and I’ve been playing since 2004.
I’m playing wrath obsessively, but am spending 0% of my time grinding for those things because I’ve already done that.
The reason people are playing wrath is because like many people have said, it’s fun now. I’ve had more fun playing in the past 2 months than I have in probably the last 10 years of WoW.
I’ll bite, and I’ll agree actually .
In my OPINION the best way to progress this game is to split into +. I think this is a majority thought at this point.
A huge part of this is similar to OSRS (the king of classic plus ideology).
A core pillar of this is to make content viable throughout . Remove massive creep and definitely not being a single xpac that invalidates all previous.
Can also start with removing levels or never increase again. Push ilvls closer together and make expansions smaller and new with items that complement current instead of replace.
The current wow cycle is lazy and pathetic.
I agree with you, just need to add what you think would work and why.
I hope they make wrath era only servers
I honestly can’t believe this guy posted this.
Like what’s the point of anything at this point with that outlook.
We’ll have Wrath Classic for at least 1.5 years. That’s more than enough time to validate any effort put into the game.
If you wanna go through cata you got hit 80 right? Riiiiight?
This what I been telling my fellow gamers from day one of classic. Eventually it’s all gonna lead to the next expansion. I can’t wait for WowClassic2
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I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.
You’re literally describing retail lol
Once SL dropped it kinda felt like all that work people put into BfA was useless because they just straight up removed all the BfA servers, and now it’s just another treadmill in SL until they remove SL completely and just put in DF.
So what exactly is the point of grinding it in SL if it’s just going to keep going on and on and then eventually removed, none of this really means anything and the grind for BiS just feels super pointless knowing none of it will last or even count.
Are people just going to dump thousands of hours between now to DF and then just quit once it happens? Just seems kinda pointless to me idk.
Dad guilds fail on easy content? Seems a little elitist as a member of a dad guild who has cleared all tbc content and wrath content thus far without being sweaty or elitist. If you can’t find a guild you like running with on your server maybe expanding your search to other servers will help you find your place of joy in classic.
What’s the point of living if we’re all just gonna die?
The game’s an event. Enjoy it while it’s here and when it’s over, it’s over.
I was gonna go to work today then I remembered one day Im gonna quit my job so its meaningless to do so. But also I need to feed myself. But also one day Im gonna die. But then I remembered nihilism is stupid and I went to work like an adult
Whats the point on grinding IRL if we just gonna die
That might have been your whole point of classic, but it wasnt for the majority of people lol