We've been utterly LIED to about Layering

Yes and no.

The beta doesn’t even have enough people to support one layer so how do you suppose they test it with out splitting up the small amount players available?

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Yes, you can’t really test layering with 200 people. (that’s what the stress test was for) They are using their infrastructure they plan on using for release, right now. (That is what is being tested) It’s an advertisement, why would they be practicing sharding on 200 people. lol. Why would they create 500 worlds when they could just create 500 zones, expecially if they are worried about server loads and over population? Do they plan on making 500 worlds at launch to accommodate everyone? How would creating 500 worlds rather than 500 zones at launch ever be a rationale decision? They are just making BIG sharded realms, that’s it.

This would imply that 100% of the cheap server’s worth would be on the market to be scooped up by the rich server.

It’s not though. At all. You can’t switch servers when invited to a group, to the server without the Horde in Redridge mountains, to avoid being killed.

People will exploit the Hell out of layering to avoid inconvenient pvp.

It’s very different. Really really different. Excessively different man. Not even remotely close to the same.

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Economies are fragile, which is why the fights against automated gold farming are quite serious for every MMO worth playing. You wouldn’t need 100%, maybe just more like 30% to cause a major crash(and I’d expect the current auction house availability to be a major %). Look at the results of the housing bubble in '08 for a real world example.

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Nothing you’re saying makes sense, it just comes off as garbled nonsense.

As a side note regarding this: To those who say layering won’t have any long term effects. The video that someone posted in another thread that had the old WoW dev giving his feedback on a recent Q & A had something interesting in it.

Ion was talking about war mode and the issues they have had in having it balanced. He talks about how they give the faction with the least participation more incentives to try to balance the factions as much as possible.

Anyways, something he said regarding this really caught my attention in the video. He was talking about how in the beginning issues with sharding made it so there would be a lot of horde in a shard, while there was not hardly any alliance. He admitted that this was a problem in the beginning and by the time they resolved the issue, the problem had already went too far and they are still struggling to get a good balance.

Ya see, this scenario is exactly what I had happen in the last stress test. We formed a raid in Orgrimmar to go to SW to do some world pvp, but there wasn’t any alliance around. It was a horrible experience. We only saw one to two allies on the way there. The human starter area was completely empty, Goldshire, outside SW, everywhere was empty.

They can’t get this horrible tech even working right in retail after all these years, yet people try to think an extremely similar tech will magically work on release for Classic? Nah, isn’t going to happen. Classic is the guinea pig for a new tech to bring to retail later.

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Just relax man, one need not take everything so personally, it’s a choice one chooses. Consider it a life lesson.

citation needed

This isn’t even about your opposition to layering anymore, is it?

It doesn’t. His posts so far make zero sense.

There might be a small difference in price for several items, which would correct very, very quickly.

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That’s terrible because you KNOW there was hundreds of Alliance there for you to fight, just hidden away on other layers. Layering is literally a disgusting steaming roach vile evil technology concocted to begin the start of the reign of the end times over the entire world.

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How does 30% of a cheap server’s worth, end up for sale at said cheap value on the new merged economy? If i was on the cheap server, merged into the new server, I would list my auctions on the new servers rate, which would promote the economy to balance out. Am I missing something?

I understand what you are saying, but wouldn’t beta be the time to be seeing if this actually works as intended?

I understand that this was what a large part of the last stress test was about, but what I don’t get is why I remained on a dead layer on a high pop realm for two days. I would think the layers should have collapsed somewhat to avoid that. Just when exactly are they going to test this in a capacity that they keep saying it’s intended to work? It just don’t give me any hope honestly and their silence just makes it worse.

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Until I brought it up, were you thinking about that? most people won’t end up paying attention until they’ve already been screwed.

In theory it’ll work out on the long term, but a crash would be inevitable and undesirable.

Demand also doubles…

At least try to think things through.

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Oh my God… You know nothing of economics. I’ll stop wasting my time replying.

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It really was a horrible experience. So much for that high pop pvp realm I was on huh?

There were about 40 of us and we were quite disappointed. People started going off on their own trying to find any ally anywhere. I went to the human starting area and there wasn’t a single person, not one. We started hoping someone would see us and form a counter raid. Who knows, maybe they did but they were on a different layer. It’s a joke.

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Nail on the head man.

I sincerely hope we’re wrong. I just doubt we are.

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:man_shrugging::man_shrugging::man_shrugging::man_shrugging:

Idk I agree with him.

There are pros and cons to everything so forgive me if I don’t just fall for your fool proof plan.

Servers with a dramatic difference in economies if merged will with out a doubt cause problems for those on the lower end of the spectrum.

Will they sort themselves out? Absolutely, but don’t pretend there won’t be any issues at all. People can in theory be stuck struggling for a while.

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