Do you guys want the likes of Garrosh back?
Because the whole point of his story was that unchecked aggression can only lead to personal and organizational disaster.
To be frank I donât think there are any strong âleadsâ in WoW any more. Male or female. It feels like every main character is this sad soft puppy that is completely incapable of taking care of itself or having any agency, so they need us to do literally everything for them.
One thing I kind of liked about earlier expansions was the fact that characters were, you know, characters. They all kind of did their own thing. We occasionally ran errands for them, but for the most part we were just kind of witnesses to these major events that happened in the lore.
But look at Shadowlands. The intro to Shadowlands is literally all of the most major important lore characters following you around like lost puppies. Oh no, I, Thrall, the literal founder of the new horde, need you to click on weapons for me until I find one that I like because apparently Iâm too useless to do that on my own. The same can be said for the female characters too. This isnât some âculture warâ thing like people are saying, this is Blizzard unable to write player characters as anything but the main and most important characters in the game.
We literally have to rescue Jaina and Thrall, two of the most powerful characters in the lore, and we fail to do it the first time so we have to do it again lol. Both male and female characters are really prominent in SL, but they all suck complete balls so we have to do everything for them. Even Tyrande, who is literally directly empowered by a god, canât deal with Sylvanas, we have to do it for her because she sucks at life. SHE canât go on an important character journey involving the night warrior power being removed from her, WE have to do it for her while she sits in a recliner somewhere.
Seriously, think of the last time a main character has said âyou know what, Iâm going to go deal with this major problem, while you, the player character, go do something else important.â Alexstrasza? Nope, she just sits in her LITERAL ivory tower and tells us what to do. The closest example I can think of, of a character doing something important and valuable of their own accord is Wrathion and Sabellian going after Fyrakk. Even then we literally have to help them every step of the way.
TL;DR: All of the main characters have sucked for a while. They literally canât do anything for themselves. They are all weak children who need to be handheld by the player character.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
I liked wow more before the main character was me.
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For further curiosity: is refusing to back up your beliefs because youâre too scared of the chance that you might not be able to use a video game forum for a few days âmasculineâ?
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Yes I do.
Masculine aggression isnt a bad thing.
We need more of it in the game.
Oh ok then.
Spoilers
Ebyssian becomes the black dragonflight after defeating Sark in the raid. Wrathion and sab are like âIs this what happens when chasing Nelthâs legacy?â They are like, âEbysian youâre more level headed here you be black dragon aspect.â
We go back to the seat of the aspects Alexstraza is like âyou sureâ and they are like, âYa we are sureâ and then he becomes to Earth Warder.
But, CHAMPION! WE NEED MORE AZERITE! CHAMPION!
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I mean it seems like youâre looking for a specific age here⌠Thatâs weird. Anduin, while not my favorite character, is a pretty good role model for a man. Heâs kind, listens to others when necessary⌠And tries to do the right thing.
What youâre looking for is hypermasculinity. Iâm not saying that doesnât exist but look around you⌠Men arenât really like that. Are you?
And it is âwhereâ
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I bet you watched Utherâs Terrible Threshold speech and were like, âPfft, what a cuck? Purging Stratholme is a great idea!â
Isnât it funny how often hypermasculine guys are, in truth, deeply insecure and impotent?
I think itâs pretty funny.
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I did think that was a great idea. Sometimes ya gotta make sacrifices for the greater good.
I also laughed when Sylvanas burnt that tree.
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I donât think men are naturally hypermasculine. It comes from frustration. Most people male or female are pretty mellow unless agitated.
Adolfs, napoleans, putins, trumps⌠They arenât good people in the end.
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Anduin is on the verge of being tossed out as leader by the other nobles for Tyrelion (Greymain was first but he rejected them). Most see him as to weak to lead and he has yet to prove them wrong.
I donât care about the actual story
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The long run,the point has several tangents,One which is more important a family broken or a family united ,though now I take it no one looks to morals any more these days.
A dot in the middle of a circle which can be whole is better than a dot with no circle.
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By that analogy, a circle is just an infinite number of points in a circular shape. But having points all over the place dosnât make it a circle⌠it is a new shape (aka, it feels like they jumped around with incoherent storytelling making a perversion on the intended âcircleâ of the story.)
You, uh, might try to be less villainous?
Purging Strat was not in any way an effective sacrifice, as evidenced by its ongoing occupation by Scourge.
Arthas gave into the dark temptation of rage at being baited by MalâGanis, and wanted to murder innocents to spite him. I agree with you that such a course of action is hypermasculine, but disagree that it was strategic or justified in any way.
If you recall, the story beats that followed werenât really a âHappily Ever Afterâ for Prince Arthas.
Unless Anduin grows up and become Swoleduin. Coming back for his throne and being like Iâll give u a 5 seconds headstart to get out of my house or Iâma destroy you Jamie Lannister style
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A circle is symbol of unity with a commonality a dot is a fix point though the circle has dots they have a common reason for being a circle.tangents have nothing in common because they are not fixed the are irregular . So to is a family unity the circle can be any size and still be a circle,a family can expand and still be a family.