Well my W10 install bricked

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System wouldn’t shut down after telling it to.

10 minutes later, hard shut down.

Turn back on, windows spinning forever.

Twenty minutes later, hard shut down.

Turn back on, can’t find OS. Can’t repair.

Had to unplug all my drives in order to get it to want to reinstall windows on my 660p.

Pretty sure my goofing with 5.1ghz and the few whea errors I experienced corrupted something.

Maybe this is the universe telling me to Ryzen and just keep that 5800x lol.

EDIT: I’m dumb. Same thing happened when I plugged in my secondary drives after installation.

I think one of my old hard drives is failing

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shoulda went with a hyper 212 for that frequency.

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Yeah lol.

Turns out I guess the 1tb I pulled out of an old laptop i didn’t wipe completely, and the MBR partition on it was janking everything up.

Which is weird since it was fine for a long time. But totally cleaning the drive and starting over fixed it.

Oh well, I needed a fresh install anyway.

Thanks to Chrome and Microsoft Account, getting back up and running as before took maybe an hour total.

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I think periodic wipe + reinstalls, intentional or otherwise, is just part of Windows life lol. It’s been true since the 90s and even though it’s gotten better at not gunking itself up over time, is still necessary to keep things running smoothly.

Had to reinstall a week or so ago on one of my machines because Windows somehow borked its bluetooth stack, which caused everything in the “add device” list to show up as “Unidentified device” and made booting take 4x longer than normal, and no amount of poking and prodding Device Manager or running auto-repair was fixing it. Reinstalled and it worked perfectly :man_facepalming:

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Well since the reinstall, my CBR23 scores went up about 100-150 points on average now. Was scoring low 10200s but now scoring high 10300s low 10400s.

Wonder what kind of BS I had on there before lowering performance, lol.

Otherwise it was easy to set back up. Chrome remembered all my stuff, Microsoft account remembered the rest.

Also seems to have fixed the random USB reconnect sounds I would get sometimes out of nowhere.

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IMO I would had waited on am5 and ddr5

Before you say “big fat if” like someone said before, remember that a 20%+ ipc increase did happen from zen+ to zen 2, can’t remember if it was 20% or 25%

I’m doing that now, saving up for a next build for am5

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I’m skeptical about all of them at this point.

Intel’s Rocket Lake seems a bit like bubble gum on a water leak, except needing a ton of power for minimal gains and seemingly extremely difficult to cool for consumers.

And with Alder Lake coming the same year, it seems like the 11900k will be a lot like the 7700k was.

AMD’s 5000 series performance, while significantly higher synthetically than Intel, doesn’t exactly translate to such in actual games. On top of that, pricing is insane right now.

I suspect similar “gains” for Zen 4, but perhaps this will be the definitive gaming win finally.

I’m actively trying to refuse delivery of the 5800x, but I don’t know if I’m really excited about replacing it with anything for the foreseeable future.

That said, I’m sure impulse will take over at some point again. We’ll see what happens.

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Rocket lake is meaningless

Just like how Intel treated kaby lake owners they’ll do it again with this

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Yeah that’s exactly what I said with the 7700k reference.

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How are people feeling about Tiger Lake on the laptop side of things? Am currently in the market for an ultrabook (probably ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 9) and Intel still has that segment locked up pretty tightly. AMD ultrabooks exist but tend to come with compromises.

Would just get an M1 MacBook Air since it’s absolutely dominating for the ultrabook use case but unfortunately this machine needs to run some x86 Windows stuff.

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It’s just Windoze.

The last content patch failed for me.
Security patch for Feb 2021 bricked my laptop.
Bootloader tools from MS rescue tools all failed.
Used Linux USB distro to copy off data.

Keeping Linux on that laptop til I’m forced to use Windows again.

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I pulled the 1TB off of my wife’s old hard drive when she upgraded it to an SSD - i didn’t wipe it because I wasn’t sure what she may have needed on there and it was a low-priority storage, just used it to save gameplay videos.

For the past 2 years it’s been fine but for some odd reason the old boot partition was causing it to try to boot from that hard drive over my NVME despite it being on the bottom of the automatic boot order.

I think it just confused the uefi or something

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I did some windows update and it booted off my nvme drive in the 2nd slot (left windows on it) as it didn’t see the first nvme drive slot (newer 1tb nvme drive) anymore. I had to reinstall the driver but before that I was wondering where my icons went and background.

Was also some second setting in bios on what is the boot drive.

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That’ll definitley do it. I always wipe my bootable drives before using them as secondary, and it so much easier now with Onedrive.

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It USED to be true… I have not rebuilt / reinstalled Windows since 8.1…

There are 3 things that you NEED to do to avoid reinstall.

Get a GOOD registry cleaner and run it at least once a day.
Find a good website that details what services to disable.
Mechanical drives have a higher fail rate than SSD. SSD is the way to preserve your sanity…

Moving parts = bad. cooling will also keep temperature stable. The up \ down extreme temps will kill CPU, Memory and hard drive.

I NEVER turn my computer off… you turn it off the fans ALSO go off and for a time your temp goes UP so turning computer off \ on is bad… just leave it running

Not to mention having to start services it takes time to build cache, so let Windows manage while idle will keep the machine running smoother.

There are many other things but those are the basics. I am a LONG TIME system engineer \ MCSE so I maintain enterprise class servers… so I DO have experience with lots of hardware.

Windows has come a long way, is it perfect no. But I can’t remember the last time ANY Windows server (I manage or have direct access) has crashed or had OS problems…

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There are 2 boot options.

BIOS and UEFI… if it’s at the bottom of the boot order you are likely looking at the wrong boot menu… If you tell the computer to boot BIOS and you change UEFI settings it will have ZERO effect.

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That’s funny because Windows works fine… until humans mess with it, then it all goes to hell…

So I would say the problem is YOU, not the OS. Guaranteed I can take YOUR laptop set it default and if untouched to let it manage itself and YOU cannot alter any defaults… it will run like a top forever… You install apps, drivers and lots of nonsense then expect Windows to be blamed when OTHER 3rd party tools make changes…

People are quick to blame the OS when it reality YOU mess with the settings and probably you are not the expert you THINK you are that’s when things gets messed up.

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Didn’t change anything, the leftover old MBR on the old hard drive triggered it. It was on the bottom of the boot order and was fine for years before it suddenly wasn’t.

Manually removing specifically that drive from the boot order completely solved the problem.

It was that old hard drive.

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But he is a long time System Engineer and Certified Pro! You should listen to him!
/s

The moment he talked about how turning off your computer is harmful already proved he has no idea what he is talking about. Like where do you live for temps to be that extreme? The moon?

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There’s some argument to be had I suppose for not turning computers off - as I understanding it, starting components takes more current normal use, which increases likelihood of component failures due to just doing it more often, and constantly cycling things from hot to cold and back can also lead to premature wear. But these are very small risks and very unlikely scenarios.

I don’t think any of those reason are significant enough to offset the electricity cost, the fact moving parts ( :rofl: ) like fan bearings, etc. will wear out faster being “on” all the time vs. of, and the increase in dust accumulation are worth it.

My wife leaves hers on all the time though. She lets Windows decide when to put it sleep (which is invariably never even with power settings set up appropriately (faulty USB devices?), since I come downstairs and see the displays on and I turn them off) and I just leave her alone. I just don’t think it’s worth debating people about because it’s not really that big a deal either way.