"We won't merge because you'll lose your names"

laughable response from blizzard per usual. they are just trolling us at this point

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Deviate Delight should be linked to Grobbulus since it is the only other RP-PVP server and pretty much dead. That way any remaining DD players can keep their names but still have others to play with.

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Honestly this is pretty solid if they allow this, but add some restrictions to those names as long time RPers or people who like their names get a chance to keep them based on active playtime and “seniority”. I’d also put in a prio to players who were playing on the main server before the others were connected to it (or transfers). For example:

  • Players who have been playing for more than 6+ months of active sub or since Classic and have a X amount of playtime showing that YES, this is an active player, get Priority on their first pick. (gotta give the 6 month subs something than the imp in a ball ever 6 months).

This gives prio to players who actually play the game long term and not new accounts that will just grab all the names on lv 1 alts then log off.

  • Players who are originally from destination server for these server transfers and connections (ex: You’re one of the original Ally players on Benediction before the mass-transfers) also get first Priority due to the ‘importance’ of names and server recognition.

Second point would make transfers angry, but they are the ones who invaded said servers and the original population should get first pick over ‘new’ players on their server.

But I think the 3 pick name system is good as it gives people a chance for a better username (I hate inviting players with special unicode), Frees up older names stuck on inactive accounts and lv.1 alts. But if they do this, players like me with multiple characters/alts would have to flag which one is their main to give that 3 name choice priority vs the alts which most players don’t care about (ex: My warlock here is my main, my Warrior who’s lv.63 is my alt, i’d be more upset about losing Pourrire than my alt’s.)

If you RP, and are still in DD, What are you doin?? Free transfers are happening right now for Deviate Delight to transfer to Grobbulus. We’ve been asking yall to move over for months. But I see your name and realized its probably taken on grobb hoarded away by a lv.1 alt, or a tourist from 2019 and never came back after the buzz on Classic release dropped.

Here are like 30 people in the forums thinking people would not quit in masses over losing names they paid early access for in the past. You are delusional if you think it’s justified to have those people lose something only because most of you were following the crowd with paid and free transfers. While blizzard is part of the problem not locking servers / factions… so are all of you just following to transfer onto mega realms and literally killing another server while doing so. Infact some servers were never “dead” yet declared so and caused an mass exodus because some wannabe good guild transferred off = mega dead.

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It’s kind of a stretch to say people paid to reserve a name. One just had to have an active sub two weeks before classic went live. We didnt pay for a name reservations, even if that’s why you subbed.

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" What if you don’t want to be on a balanced realm and at some point, specifically elected to move to a realm where your faction is in the majority? We have years of data that suggests that, on a long enough timeline, the population for most PvP realms will tend to skew towards one faction or the other and that this skew often starts as the result of more incoming players joining the majority faction, rather than players leaving the minority faction."

A stunning level of stupidity.

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This is arguably the worst. Naturally there will be some fall off, I don’t think this is the projected outcome of the servers and even if it is. It becomes the janitorial duty of Blizzard to squish the remaining communities together. What if factions tend to skew? It’s probably an effect of guild’s dropping off as people’s drive to play the game trickles away between expansions. If I didn’t have friends to play the game with or to reach goals with I likely wouldn’t play and that probably causes a chain reaction of people losing the things they’re in this game for.

I don’t think servers have ever dipped so hard to one side and even if they did. You have the ability to do something about it, the most frustrating part about classic is that no one else is coming. Classic for most of us is a nostalgia trip into greener pastures when the game was tough and gritty and would kick your *** if you dared pull a second mob, but had it’s own charm. The game was difficult but rewarded experimentation, classes were unique and their tools dynamic and often specific to only them or another. Retail is a fairyland where you play an instant legendary hero who can pull multiple mobs into a giant ball and AOE them to immediately finish quests. Every class has a heal, a stun a mobility option and talents are broken down into picking a passive or a spell every 10 levels so no build is unique. That’s the trade from that to this and it doesn’t look good when you have to work for each level 10x as hard.

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That dev doesn’t play the game, does not understand why people moved.
The dominant server thing is not the main reason. TBCC dungeons and raids can be ghost-run easily with little consequence, unlike classic with WB. All T4, and T5 raids can be accessed with a flying mount, SSC takes 1 ghost run to zone in. If the mass transfer happens during T6 island, then we can attribute WPVP as the main drive. However, it’s very early, meaning something else drives people to bigger realms.

The main reason people move is because of FOMO. The ‘top’ guilds move first to the greener pasture, thinking they can recruit easier. Then some guilds follow, knowing recruitment would be hard and they better move first. The domino effect is triggered and as people leave, the LFG scene worsens as time goes on. The rest of the population finds it hard to form groups and join PUG raids, eventually, they will move, leaving empty servers.

The realm population of TBC isn’t high to begin with. The fear of being on a dead server also prevents people transfer to medium/low pop realms. Basically, these non-mega realms are set up to fail. As the population reduces naturally, there is no refill of new players or transferees.

In short, the main drive to transfer is the small LFG pool; the FOMO feeling is the fuse that triggers the mass exodus. We do not opt-in mega-servers, we opt-out of dying servers to actually play the game.

It is sad that Blizzard dev sees the symptom as the problem. I don’t think people want to play mega server because of W PVP and they want to dominate the other faction, it’s all about LFG pool. The more players the better.

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its…its still open like what they already did this. I can transfer right now if I wanted to and my server has single digit people on WCL lol…

Already have to lose my name b/c everyone is transferring off Benediction, US East PVP server which as late as August 21 had 50/50 population, but they kept allowing allies to transfer to a “full server”, so now it’s 5% horde and everyone is transferring to a 99% horde server. Ruined tbc. 15 years to learn from mistakes and still messed it up

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Already have to lose my name b/c everyone is transferring off Benediction, US East PVP server which as late as August 21 had 50/50 population, but they kept allowing allies to transfer to a “full server”, so now it’s 5% horde and everyone is transferring to a 99% horde server. Ruined tbc. 15 years to learn from mistakes and still messed it up

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This is exactly how I’ve seen it play out, and it does often.

A few extra notes:

  • People start questioning if the server is dying almost immediately, and chat becomes depressing with this talk all the time.
  • Advertisements start-up for the new server, and yes they read just like advertisements so I will call them that, promoting the new server as the best and ONLY option.
  • When things start getting worse… pug groups get really bad, people can’t find DPS.
  • The AH starts getting really bad, you can’t sell stuff for reasonable prices but you also can’t buy anything without a huge markup.

I’m not saying the faction thing doesn’t matter, but here is why the one-sided servers fall apart too.

I’m not a fan of any of this personally, and I strongly think the game is drastically worse than it could be at this point. Although for people who only care about fast pug groups and disregard everything else, and who usually only care about themselves, they could think it’s better.

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I’m not on Kromcrush. :wink:

Should of locked horde on pvp servers and made you play alliance tbh.

Hey cut that out! Blizzard can’t handle this big brain move.
You should know by now blizzard is highly allergic to solutions that would solve their game play issues.

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blizzard no one cares about names. Seriously. We all have to rename when we xfer to megaserver anyway since everyone and their dad has every single possible name. Such a silly excuse to not take action.

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Yes, the people who want to go to a new server know this might happen. However, when a merge happens, it may be forced upon someone who would not have chosen to move to a new server, thus losing their name unwillingly. Is that distinction really not obvious?

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when your server is actively dying weekly it’s not much of a choice so in the end it is essentially the same choice, don’t be facetious. Unless you enjoy playing wow solo mode

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Glad you speak for everyone on your server. Some people may enjoy a small server and that is specifically what Blizzard said was their hesitation.

If you have a perfect solution, please share it.

Yeah just gonna go out on a limb and the 100 people leaving every week speaks for itself. The vast majority >>>> some weirdos who like an abandoned server. Sorry not sorry

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