We will have to assassinate Amber Kearnen? Really?

Not really, when there is a change in the timeline, it means that the Infinite flight is involved.

Therefore, what we have to do is to prevent the Infinites to make this change and then witnessing the events.

But not this time, we have to directly act on the timiline by killing a character in the past rather than stopping the Infinite flight to change the timeline, and with a justification that does not make sense on top of that.

We don’t have the context but if an infinite dragon is involved…why not just go killing him to prevent a change in the timeline?

Another possibility: A Timewalker made a blunder but in this case, why we have to do the dirty work in place of the person responsible?

Sounds like you’re desensitized to pointlessly cruel, godawful plotlines.

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Finally a human character dies. I was sick and tired of so many dead blood elves.

She’s been dead for years. We’re just traveling back in time to make sure she stays that way in the future

Than we need even more of it.

Depends on how it’s pulled off. Killing off alliance leaders for the sake of parity isn’t going to solve the hordes problems. But I agree it will give alliance players a small taste of what the horde and it’s players been through

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I wonder if this quest is the outliner in it all or if they will be similar quests. Like say instead of the Legion killing Wray as known, its adventures who killed the guy so that shamans can obtain Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker and use it to resurrect Thunderaan.

Well, it gets worse. Looks like they’ll also make you go back and make sure Alexstrasza doesn’t escape the Dragonmaw too early. They really should delete this one.

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I think blizz could easily tweak the quest with Amber and instead of having us being the ones to kill her, we are simply sent back in time to make sure that Detheroc disguised as Mathias Shaw sucessfully orders her assassination

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I’m now really curious as to what the other quests are…

Like is their one where we help Garrosh escape his trial, put Frostmourne back on its pedestal for Arthas to find, etc…

99% of the Horde problems is the fact that Blizzard killed 90% of our leaders and other lore characters. Now do a compare with the alliance and tell me with a straight face Blizzard is not biased.

Let’s be honest: Alliance players experienced massive losses of territories without being able to retaliate on the same scale.
Horde players experienced losses of leaders for stupid reasons too.

It’s useless to weigh who have it worse, both side suffered with stupid decisions.

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Oh that needs to go. What the hell.

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Yeah, I suppose that is true when you look at it that way.

zones are for leveling only. But people can’t be replaced once dead. And as we see with Gilneas and Stromgarde places can be taken back. And since characters drive the story forward I say they are the most important thing for a good story.

Oh for the love of god, can’t we just prevent the infinite flight to do something stupid?

I really wish to have the full context because the way i look at it, for some reasons these "problems"are done without any external interferences

So…Amber Kearnen alive and the misplaced Demon Soul (it wasn’t Dragon Soul originally? i have forgotten) give the impression that this is how the timeline should be if the bronzes hadn’t altered it.

I tend to consider everything related to the lore not as gameplay like you but as world building so you are both right and wrong.
It’s Blizzard’s fault to not be able to build characters capable to act as charismatic leaders.

Why? Look, I think it’s precisely because it is such a problematic quest that we should keep it. The entire shtick of the Bronze is making us make sure horrible things in Warcraft’s history happen the way they did even if we objectively/subjectively think it is reprihensible.

Why is this any worse then asking Alliance players to kill Krenan or letting Medivh live so he could summon the Horde to cause a genocidal war? In both case we morally do not agree but because we have no other option least we cause a worse timeline we are forced to do it.

R-wording someone is much crueler than killing them, not that I’m too thrilled about killing innocent civilians either “for the greater good.”

I play a Death Knight, but during the DK starting zone, you’re under the control of the Lich King, and you’re supposed to regret the horrors you’ve done.

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That is a debatable thing(or we can both agree both are horrible and not something to be compared). And then you would also have to compare SA to the second example I gave, letting genocide occur.

And in these Chromie quests we are fully concious of our actions. In a way, it can certainly make us understand why the Infinite Dragons can rise. If the Bronze dragonflight have to constantly do these morally upsetting decisions I can understand why they would go Infinite.

Alliance got that fanservice cheese handfed to them when the Sons of Lothar returned and Jaina moped the floor with the Horde players during her raid fight. You will never see legends of the past fighting for us because they are all dead.