Like did I miss something?
Is this not the same company that decided to hammer on the melodrama glockenspiel again and again and again about how Teldrassil was an outright genocide?
And then released a children’s pop up book featuring the event.
Genuinely I think a lot of ya’ll need a break. Because after wandering off for years to months at a time all I’m hearing is that the company that handles extraordinarily sensitive subject matter with all the grace and skill of a drunk Amazon delivery driver who’s put in their 2-weeks notice is just continuing to do so.
Of course they’re trying like hell not to remove the quest.
Redoing it requires scrapping presumably thousands of dollars of work. And redoing it in any satisfactorily transformative way will require thousands of dollars more dumped into it.
I don’t want to be the employee who has to turn up and explain this situation to the bean counters.
Per WoWhead, some of the quests are being changed or removed. Hopefully the not-okay one about Alexstrazsa and the random edgy kill Amber one are among the removed or changed ones.
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The blue post Doness linked earlier in the thread says that they’re already in the process of adjusting and removing quests as a result of this feedback.
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Pretty sure they are doing the bare minimum to make it passable if they are trying to keep it. The quest itself is done, and they don’t want to have to work on it too much. Better to scrap it and make another one if they can’t make it passable within a certain margin. More cost effective.
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They’re going to rework it on a budget to make things marginally less creepy in a way that’s probably going to go off like a lead balloon.
Don’t get me wrong I’m happy they’re listening to feedback but this whole situation just strikes me as forest for the trees.
I promise you the lesson learned from this experience will not be;
“Handle sensitive subject matter with forethought and care”
But
“Well ish this sent us over Q2 budget. Let’s never address anything like this again”
Seriously I know not all of you American but most of you are. How have you not caught on to how corporations think?
Anyway apologies for the outburst. I was prepared for battle all morning today ready to take heads over a dispute over medical payments with my insurance.
Only to discover it was a clerical error and it was resolved pretty much instantaneously.
So with this gift of free time and an easy victory I decided to do the righteous thing;
Drink a lot of red wine while wandering in circles around my house aimlessly.
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It happens and the real adults didn’t get their feelings hurt, so I like think we’re all good 
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Danke.
Anyway yeah this is why I avoid commenting on the DF storyline. It’s so ‘Saturday Morning Cartoon’ filler I’m legitimately confused how anyone can get that worked up one way or the other.
So much so we gotta make mountains over mole hills about a loading screen storyline from 1995 and a random NPC I’m convinced most of the playerbase knows as the corpse from the Uncrowned storyline.
Does kinda shows Blizz’s lack of originality though. I figured theyd use the Bronze Dragonflight to continue to deliver us bizarre ‘What If’ flights of fancy like that Planet of the Murlocs quest.
How we wound up here is anyone’s guess.
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She was a character from vanilla. Shaw would send rogues to her and she would direct you to a tower that you had to sneak your way in to get something.
She would be used again in Westfall questing during Cata then later as one of the main “scouting” forces Varian sent to find Anduin in MoP.
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Amber isnt some random NPC to be fair. She’s been around since vanilla and originally helped alliance rogues with a few quests and then she got a role in Cata westfall.
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Fair enough, my knowledge of Stormwindian NPCs kinda begins with killing them and ends with /cannibalize.
But as popular as SW is that’s 1 out of an original 8 and now 13 or so playable factions. I’d certainly get my knickers in a twist if they drop kicked Pontius over a waterfall in lieu of any actual story but I’d fully expect my cries to fall on deaf ears.
I’d genuinely have thought BFA would’ve taught us these cherished characters are nothing to them but names they probably dug up on WoWPedia.
Seriously I’m still not over how Warden Stillwater went from being executed via (actually surprisingly solid) boss fight in the Sludgefields in Cata by Apothecary Lydon, Johnny Awesome and the player to becoming commander of RAS forces at Shadowfang.
Beyond the obvious explanation that whoever was writing the mission quests was probably trying to clock out for work and just threw whatever Forsaken character had a vaguely authorative title in as a mobile game mini-boss.
Which wasn’t the wrong move tbh because I’m 90% sure 87% of the playerbase neither noticed or cared to notice that bewildering series of events.
i just dont understand why they decide to go this route with the bronze flight everytime.
YOU ARE THE WRITERS, YOU MAKE THE RULES. if you want to say tomorrow the bronze flight is totally ok with some things changing, it is totally ok for some things to change.
or you can just do something else with their time travel. it really is just revealing how one note they’ve been with the bronze flight. it’s always this “YOU MUST ALLOW BAD TO HAPPEN” nonsense
how have they not gained new material since TBC? and i’m talking about the actual people behind these quests. completely different teams but still the same deal.
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They did. It was called Shadowlands.
Then DF started as a chill af little vacation and everyone complained it wasn’t dark fantasy enough.
So. Here we are I guess. I thought it was completely delightful. Now we’re going back in time to make sure atrocities happen.
Go team.
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i do think things have been a bit toothless in dragonflight. we beat raz, we beat sark up and so far nothing too terrible has happened.
lots of warm stories and everyone’s having a good time with the green and blues. the black dragonflight figured out their thing. things are looking good. i wouldn’t mind losing an aspect or two by the end of the expac; kinda hoping kale goes nuts from the void
but this is just the lame “rule of cool” wow stuff. for whatever reason they’ve decided timeline = some very bad attempt at morally grey? that’s the only benefit of the doubt I can give, and it is about as played out as clock radio speakers.
I’m just saying they tried to make a harmless, flight of fancy expansion where all we were doing was making soup and getting story time with Grandma Walrus.
And I was so there for that. Because I know how Warmode works so I could just turn that on any time I felt the pathological need to prove myself superior to my fellow man.
But heaven forfend the great masses didnt get their fantasy adventure so here we are.
What in God’s name did you expect?
At the bare minimum, they could change it so the infinines try to keep her in captivity longer, then we free her.
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something more than someone leaning back in a chair, rubbing their eyes and asking “ok what do we got? what do the bronze do? timeline stuff right? what’s an NPC people who started playing in legion will recognize? ok let’s just do the bronze dragonflight thing with them”
it is just the dark portal and the culling dungeon, but for players who didn’t play then. this is how they tell a player “what” the bronze dragonflight is about i guess. someone who started in legion and never did old content wouldn’t know that one of the current flight’s thing is making sure bad thing happen for reason
Here’s a question:
If they had gone to Alexstrasza when the found out the Dragon Soul had been misplaced, explained the situation, and got her advice and blessing on getting things fixed instead of trying to do the whole thing on the “downlow”, would that have been any better? Maybe a little more palatable?
I don’t know. I imagine opinions on this would vary greatly. Alex understands the need to keep the timeline from being monkeyed with is more important than her own personal feelings and I also feel that Chromie being more forthcoming about what was going on intead of being cloack n’ dagger would have been more respectful.
But all in all it’s probably better straight up to just write a new scenario that isn’t quite such a touchy subject.
I don’t know how to explain this, but after you turn 30 you’re basically a corpse to the marketing executives of the world.
Obviously they’re trying to explain the lore to newcomers.
Let’s be real here the Gen X / Millenial demographic is doing a lot of things but we’re sure as hell done growing.
Yeah on the whole I’d agree this story is mid but they brought the profession system into the next generation, they completely reinvigorated the archaic flying system, they revamped PvE and PvP to reward both dedicated and casual play, and reworked the talent system to be an ongoing experiment rather than the hard commitment it was in yesteryear or the ‘pick one of 3 options where at best 2 are good’ it was until now.
The story being sorta uneventful and just sorta controversial is, about as good as it needed to be after the disasters that were SL and BFA.
Now that they mentioned “quests”(plural). I assume the amber one is being removed as well as Alextdraxza one right?