We told you Blizzard was not going to cave in

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While it would be nice for Enhancement Shamans to not be perma benched for once, all anyone is asking here is that at the very least, they shouldn’t tie it to Transmog and mounts.

If you can swap a talent and passively gain 5% output, your skill isn’t a factor. You using the wrong talent is a 5% drop right there, something you require no actual practice to fix.

Same for using a bad spec. If you’re a hunter, and BM is outperforming Marks by far, and you play Marks, it’s not your skill holding you back. You’re intentionally playing with a Handicap. That makes no sense in a game where your teammates depend on you.

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You have all the tools available to play the game the way you want. I’d argue that asking to take away mine is the real “childish take”.

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If he didn’t come across like he’s competing for world first I would have told him the same story I told you. The whole holding the team back is irrelevant by what I told you.

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Not really because a game needs rules, not getting what you want is not a bad thing. Times where you can’t have what you want for other things. It happens. It is not childish.

To think that a game can have everything that everyone wants without a cost would make a boring game in my eyes. Not having something adds value to things you do got.

I mean sure. My point was that, guilds allow for players to play how they want. and systems like this are fine. The problem comes from pugging and meta enforce through it. It can be bypass by being social and just having guilds.

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LMAO what?

I wouldn’t call the inspect feature “weaponizing the armory.”

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Problem is getting what you need. Your just not what people need to time the key. Therefore systems are introduced to get rid of people that won’t be able to do what they are required to do, hence why raider.io is a thing.

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What constitutes, makes up, the community in your observation?

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Easy for you to say. In our current system you can play with your guild. You can, if you so choose, “play the odds” and have the pug experience you want. In our current system I can also vet people to my heart’s content and play with people who have the same goals and levels of commitment that I do. You’re simply asking to keep yours and take mine.

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Plus he doesn’t seem to grab the concept that one can be a team player by deciding to sit out. The tunnel vision is strong in this one. Which is why I said, waste of time.

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Having something to do doesn’t make it good. Let’s say I make a game where you can watch paint dry 24/7 there is always something to do there. It isn’t good but hey it’s something. WoD was the exact same as MoP with worse class design the difference was the lack of flying made daily chores takes 3 times as long. Being able to raid log wasn’t a bad thing.

It goes BFA < Early Legion < WoD < Middle Legion < Cata < Late Legion < actual good expansions.

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Technically one is more social by pugging. Staying within the lanes or echo chamber of a guild can limit one to the wide range of people that actually play this game on the daily. You aren’t really seeing the types of players on a larger scale when you only focus on playing with the same type of people over and over.

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I never said they had to scrap entire game but way to put words in my mouth.

Also, what I meant by why even have a beta is that they ASK for the player feedback on these systems then say “oh we disagree”, which is fine, but if they like the system their way they could easily just hire their own people to do QA and not have players involved.

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Hey look, a post about balance by someone who doesn’t raid, doesn’t do M+, doesn’t pvp, telling me that my concerns over Blizzard balancing a convoluted system of borrowed talents are unfounded.

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i honestly feel like people who dont play the game shouldnt be giving input. BFA has easily for me been the worst xpac, cause ya know, i played the game and participated in content that required me doing endless chores to remain competitive

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It was, and still is, I know forum dwelling folk tend to be irrationally upset when content creators are brought up, especially Preach and Asmon - but they’re right.

That’s a cute deflection, but couldn’t be further from the truth.

The community not liking this system doesn’t put them at fault, that’s a ridiculous take, the game’s subs didn’t drop out of nowhere, it was heavy handed, glorified speed bumps like this that turned people off, and they have been given plenty of time to adjust to no avail. The community, if anything, is why SL will be a good expansion regardless of the covenant system, as several important class changes are the result of player feedback.

HAHAHAHAHA

No, this affects everyone. The system is designed in such a way that it will be impossible to balance without opening it up or neutering all of them to the point of irrelevance. This will affect top end players the least, as they already play optimally - and absolutely be huge for most people under that bracket.

Oh, it’s not a question of if, rather when.

They are going to a patch or two in, we’ve seen this formula two times now, this is no different than those times. That’s the truly adorable part of all of this - the inevitable was delayed, don’t break an arm patting yourself on the back for…having nothing to do with it?

Oh, and I’m pretty sure most of us knew they were going to die on this hill, but now we can’t say we didn’t try. This isn’t news to me, and likely not to most people for this.

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Weaponizing Armory to deflect my feedback. Cute.

Maybe if the community was better I would do said content? I do it in other mmos.

Either way, people who keep doing this. Prove my point for me. I thank you.

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Just play in your guild right?

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There’s this thing called credibility, if I comment on rocket science as a web developer, I should probably stop talking when the actual rocket scientist tells me exactly why my opinion is irrelevant.

If you’re going to comment on how this isn’t going to be bad for the game, you should probably, you know - play the game.

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The entire impetus for their OP boils down to “Pugs deny me because I don’t try so lets get rid of the metrics by which they can tell I don’t try” Its been going on for months with them.

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Credibility? Do you know the meaning of that word?

The feedback I gave is base off my perspective and what I want in the game. What I have done, and my reasons are sound to me. It does not deflect or make what I say any less.

Or do you think that what you want out of the game has more value than what I want because of what you have done? That is crazy logic.

The deflection is real here, and you all just keep making my point for me about how armory and achievements should be guild only viewed. SO thanks.