We still don't even know what broke the arbiter

It’s pretty obvious it was argus…

Death broke during legion. We know it was sometime after Ursol died since he went to ardenwield.

The only other significant event that would justify the arbiter blue screening would be the death of the death titan and having his titanic soul intercepted by the nathrezime in argus and aimed at the arbiter.

Plus malganis says in the 9.1 campaign that argus the legion and scourge was a means to an end.

So how much more of a hand held u need OP since you can’t seem to put together puzzle pieces on your own.

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It wasn’t I looted it…that is why Blizzard brought back 2-h Frost; it was for me cause I asked really nicely.

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Why do people keep complaining about the sword. It got taken care of as a plot device to use up our artifacts. We took care of the toxic effect it had on azeroth.

Now it’s just a gigantic sword sticking out from the earth. WTF else are we supposed to do with it?

If anything azeroth herself will use it as her weapon if and when she manifests

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There is nothing conclusive about that information. But yes many people including myself have speculated that Argus had to do with it. You aren’t smart for regurgitating the same theory everyone already knows.

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Please show me where we took care of the sword in the ground that’s still stabbing the world soul.

And also please show me where they’ve taken care of all the refugees from the Nelfs or in Westfall. I’d also like to know where we’ve taken care of the Scourge that we know is still running rampant.

Which has zero to do with finishing storylines.

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There’s absolutely nothing else in legion that could have caused it. Everything you need for the theory to hold water is there.

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UGH THIS GNOME.

Why do people always bring up the sword? It’s a landmark now. We took care of the corruptive power of it and spent an expansion healing the woonz.

The sword has not been forgotten. It’s as tall as Mount Hyjal. What do you propose we do?

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Except we never really healed her and she’s still got a sword in her.

Therein lies the issue. It’s once again a story backed into a corner, because they didn’t think it through. Had BfA been a storyline that actually focused on fighting for Azeroth herself to not die… we would’ve seen a much different outcome concerning that sword.

The unfinished storylines of some things every now and then aren’t new. It was simply an example of one of the most glaring ones. Kind of how they never finished Maiev’s storyline after her murder spree and then nonchalantly moved on in Legion.

I think the issue here is that people are mistaking facts for me somehow being outraged. All I’m doing is pointing out that this topic isn’t a recent development, but something that happens more and more often as time goes on.

The history of Azeroth played out over three expansions (at a minimum), from Uldaman and beyond.

I don’t need to see everything tied up neatly in a single package at the end of an expansion.

I just feel like somethings are left open for future story hooks. I could be wrong, but during vanilla and BC were people saying “what about Arthas tho”? Or did folks assume we would eventually face him?

We are out of big bads from WC3 and earlier. New stories and hooks need to be made.

Just because we didn’t somehow yoink the sword out doesn’t mean it’s a forgotten storyline. Just like how whatever knocked out the arbiter isn’t a forgotten storyline.

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I broke the Artbiter. (I broke the Dam. South Park reference).

Problem is that we see this so often, it’s not a surprise if it ends up going by the wayside like so many other stories within expansions. Sometimes, it’s not a big deal. Other times, it’s just problematic, even for RP. Point is, if it is left unfinished, it’s just par for the course and not all that rare. Meaning: people shouldn’t get outraged if it does happen.

Agreed

The use of the word dread in the cinematic, the sound and speed/coloration of the object approaching the Arbiter, the fact that Denathrius would have also known how to send Remora to the same location he may have stood before - cutscenes show the covenant leaders standing on pillars adjacent the Arbiter. All that points to Denathrius

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I don’t think titans go to the Shadowlands. In fact, when Sargeras defeated the pantheon, the essence of the titans did not go to the Shadowlands.

While perhaps magic interfered with the titans being completely obliterated, I think there is compelling information here to suggest titans don’t go to the Shadowlands when they “die.”

If Argus dying broke the Shadowlands, one would think that Sargeras’ torture of him would have done some damage, too. With the last of Argus being used to help trap Sargeras.

In short, I don’t see evidence for Argus’ death being the kicker for the Arbiter beyond anything than a convenient timeline, because Argus was the way he was due to the legion’s meddling. Not some grand design of the first ones.

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Not everything needs to be revealed right away.

And that’s okay.

Chances are the thing that broke the Arbiter was the spirit of Argus the Unmaker. We know that spirits of creatures that belong on other planes (like fire elementals that belong in the Firelands) do sometimes make it to the Shadowlands, only for them to be sent to their particular plane.

Argus, had he been killed normally, would have arrived in the Shadowlands, and then he would have been returned to the Plane of Order. But because he was so tortured, so filled with rage and anger, the feedback that the Arbiter felt when she tried to process his spirit caused her to break and fall into a coma.

It’s best you just don’t think about it.

  1. Sword still stuck in the world, Azeroth in pain, left unfinished.
  2. N’zoth scheming for all of Warcraft, killed in a patch, Azshara MIA.
  3. Night elves left without closure, still homeless refugees.

Arbitor will likely be forgotten about now since she’s been zapped. A nice unexplained nugget Blizzard will pull out 4 expansions from now when the villain randomly says. “It was I who zapped the Arbitor! So I could release the Jailer! So he could reforge reality! So he could open the way FOR ME! My final plan!” 12D chess.

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We can’t reasonably do anything about the sword when you think about it, so yeah, that’s going to stay there until Azeroth turns into a Titan and pulls it free herself.

The sword in Silithus is probably better viewed like the Dark Portal in blasted lands or the maelstrom. It’s just one more of the legion’s love notes to Azeroth. Heck, even the well of eternity was unintended due to the events between Aman’thul and Y’Shaarj.

Yeah I think it’s more so it just feels it’s been forgotten about. Like, one moment it’s the biggest issue ever. Next we jump to N’zoth and Azshara stuff and the sword is sort of forgotten about. Based on what Magni was saying, you’d think it’d still be brought up in the narrative, but seems like it was just a bullet point for BFA.

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Well I’m sure it probably would be brought up… if Magni was around in Shadowlands, but he’s probably still trying to patch things up. Like, I don’t think it’s forgotten by the narrative team. It may become a point of contention again in the future, but for now it’s just there and we can’t really do anything about it.

Goblins are excellent strip-miners, but even they can’t get rid of something that large, especially since it’s made from a material that no one on Azeroth has seen before and we likely have no tools capable of cutting it.

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