We need m+ automatic queue

It’s a factual statement.

Because it was a skill issue.

The issue was boss fight mechanics. I remember stonecore and the second to last boss was a group killer because people weren’t smart enough to run out of the circle.

What did they do, pull the entire room and hallway? Yikes.

Sad to say, it’s needed. To many gatekeepers and run sellers.

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I guess us heroic raiders on Illidan just weren’t as good as you, kudos to you.

I do not trust Blizzard match making at all. You see it in PvP and in other games such as OW and it’s always been the worst. At best it’ll try to match based on rating. I’ve seen plenty of people with high rating but terrible ilvl. It could mean they’re good at their spec. But in my experience they were either carried or bought runs.

There are several factors that could come into play but the more they add such as rating, ilvl, experience. But it’s unlikely to match based on all 3. That’s why it would probably have to just match based on rating and matching based on key level. Severely flawed and untrustworthy.

I’m obviously not pushing nearly as high as the god comps are (I mean, I’m playing the literal worst spec in M+) but I am selective of who I take into my groups. If I’m doing push keys, I look for similar rating 100-200 below or more than mine. More than 10, 20’s run. As well as a ilvl above 440. You can check my top runs on my armory, I don’t only take or join god comp specs either.

My point is, I’d much rather ensure my push key will pass than let rng try its best to find a quick group while ignoring several important factors.

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Score can be bought (carries). Your dps/hps thresholds idea would be better, but the system they would need to build to compile all that data, probably on a per-spec basis, updating weekly (or nightly) – just seems like a lot of work they wouldn’t want to do to solve a problem that only seems to exist to players.

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Nope. Just the top three packs I was the only one using kicks.

Sadly CS/DB/BW arent on a short enough CD to do it all.

Fair enough, reasonable criticism.

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To do what by m+ score? you can form a group of players with similar score, but unlike pvp you can’t put them up against an enemy with similar score.

There isn’t any gatekeeping unless you want to be carried. Anybody can list their key right now and take the first 4 other people who apply. Which is pretty much what a queue would do.

Of course, people DON’T do that, because they want to be in a group that will succeed.

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shhh don’t say this, people here will report you for griefing

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There isn’t any gatekeeping in this game and that is an excuse made by players that aren’t succeeding.

Use the lfg tool and take the first 4 players that apply.

As classic is a prime example. Wrath wasn’t exactly super hard or complicated.

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The fact we wiped four times and if I wasn’t able to leave I would have been a hostage afking at the entrance.

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Don’t you get it though? The people that are wanting this are the same people who can’t get into a M+ group. This isn’t me being elitist or being rude, but this is just what I’ve seen.

I wouldn’t even say anti-social but I’d say to those that are scared of making mistakes and or receiving criticism. Sure, some of them are anti-social but I don’t think we need to turn the whole game into LFG.

Mage Held Hostage by Players Without Interrupts
film at eleven

“How could they stop him from escaping if they didn’t have interrupts?” asks defense attorney.

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Can’t PvP scores go down? Match making based on scores kind of needs that.

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Yeah it’s not everyone, but a number of low gear/low experience players don’t actually want to play with other low gear/low experience players.

The same kind of people who raid by pugging into other peoples’ farm runs and then brag that “raiding isn’t even hard” lol.

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PVP scores can go down, but if we had that same system for M+, then people would be upset; if we added that sort of thing plus still having key depletions, you’d get forum posts such as: “BLIZZARD IS RUINING THE GAME."

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Well color me surprised, you convinced me m+ queues would be a very bad idea.

People assume queue’d content is easy and that they will finish it. M+ is neither of those things. You can make M+ queueable, but only if you get no rating or achievements from it, and the gear is the same ilvl as m0.

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