Can be fully automatic where your role, score are used to form a group and at least one ranged, brez and lust are a guaranteed.
INB4:
im okay with this in a sub 15 level key. but beyond that it has to be premade group or using group finder.
is that a decent compromise?
I was against this at first but honestly I’m all for it.
There’s no chance anyone doing high keys will use it, leaving all the people that do it casually and putting them together.
i think many high level people would still do it cause sometimes the squad aint on so its time to stomp
I’d rather hand pick who joins my key than let rng figure something out. All my keys are pugged except for my one friend. No way in hell we’d let lfg pick lol
Only way that will work is if they don’t let keys get bricked on failed attempts. Otherwise the M+ player base will lose their collective mind in the first week from the trolls trashing keys. Because you know it will be irresistible to trolls.
If M+ ever comes with a queue feature, it should also come with a spectate feature. And you need to sign a ToS before each run that you won’t complain about difficulty and get it nerfed for everyone else.
Yea but then how would players enforce the meta that the super high end comps do that they’ll never need to do
The LFD system failed miserably against Cata Heroics… You think it’ll work well for M+?
I look forward to your threads about how stupid it was that you got paired with 3 warrior dps.
They still will. Isn’t like those are the players that would use the queue. They already choose their teams. Why would they stop?
i think the only problem i could see is the trolls joining.
trolls would be few in number and would get bored quickly.
people with no clue what they’re doing and no interest in learning would be in endless supply.
i cant see that as true.
i still have flashbacks from SoO LFR wipe fest because trolls.
i can already see the “your mmr system is BROKEN, it keeps matching me with IDIOTS” threads 
Being able to queue for m+ seems ridiculous. We already have solo shuffle, which takes 15 minutes, if not an hour, to queue for most days, if not less. If we have people complaining about SH times then people will complain about M+ queue times. Having M+ queues is also not going to help prevent less toxicity either.
Do I think there should be a M0 queue? Absolutely, but anything beyond that though no.
There are just many problems with this that I can’t see working. Now, what we could do is something like what SH did but change it up and have that be it’s on separate rating.
It literally can’t
M+ exists so LFD doesn’t have the problem of having to cater to people who strive for braindead content (see those who used LFD since Wrath) or those who want more difficult PvE non-raid content to do (see those who used LFD during Cataclysm)
Sorry but no, the option is for M+ to exist without an automatic queue to maintain its difficulty or to effectively make queueable content so difficult that it purposefully alienates people - you can dislike this all you want and make memes about it but WoW has already tried both options and guess what, it was hated by both of these two camps but for different reasons
But sure, let’s rapid-fire your meme-points as well:
M+ isn’t PvP, and solo shuffle already has a queue - your comparison failed completely
Has very little to do with the social aspects of it but I guess if every key you have ever done has toxic players in it, I guess the common denominator would be you
Irrelevant as this has nothing to do with any of this
This isn’t Reddit but sounds like a made up comment, one taken out of context, or any other myriad of intellectually dishonest stuff like that
Oh-kay … so now you are complaining and want to control how other people play the game, so… you are a control freak? Gotcha’
Never underestimate how easily amused a troll can be.
So whose key gets depleted when the run fails?
(And how long before the threads start with “Blizzard needs to add massive incentives to the queued version of M+ because nobody’s using it”?)
You understand it’s not just their logs, right? Logs tell you only what you want to hear, creating bias.
I would choose a guildie over a meta class ANYDAY.
Also, no. The pug experience is bad enough as is.
Matchmaking exists in a ton of other games at high ELO/MMR. Sure it isn’t perfect but it would be a really nice change.