The person who chooses dungeon lead.
Then we’re back to “Blizzard needs to add massive incentives for the queued version of M+ because nobody’s putting their keys on the line”.
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Then have brick protection, like a lot of other Blizzard games do: afkers, trolls, etc. Their systems are smart enough to pick up a lot of this stuff already.
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There’s a whole host of reasons why this is a bad idea. they’ve been gone over ad naseum.
keys will fail
people will whine about difficulty
people will get the content nerfed so 4 potatoes and a celery stalk can one shot it
people will still whine about difficulty
groups will be poorly formed
good players won’t use the system, leaving only bad players to use it, have failed groups and whine about difficulty
etc.
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Why is this even needed, though? Can’t people already list their key and pick the first 4 people who show up?
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Not even solo shuffle has protection against afkers or trolls not that I know of other than reporting.
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All of these things happen now lol.
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I wasn’t specifically talking about WoW or PVP, but it’s hard to believe Blizzard doesn’t have the tech to implement some kind of protection. Lots of other game studios do it with a much smaller budget.
I would suspect the same reasons why the normal and heroic LFG tools are there.
The heroic & LFG tools are there because the developers are catering to anti-social players and have thrown the social elements that made WoW popular in the trash-heap ever since the end of WotLK, which is why their playerbase has been in decline ever since.
AND because normal & heroic are bottom-of-the-barrel faceroll nobody-can-possibly-fail-at-this content with no time limits and zero possibility of the dungeon not being completed.
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remember when they tried making them not faceroll? I remember.
it’s insanity that anyone legitimately thinks random queued content can have any level of difficulty involved.
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Don’t get me started.
I also think Ghostcrawler was way off-base with his “players refuse to get better” stance.
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Amazing feedback here.
Seems like we need some protection from trolls, I think we already should have some punishment for leaves/trolls in place.
The concept of key can go away. You can only queue for a dg +1 level of your previous timed one, starting from lvl 2? Eg.: If I did a +10 neth in time, I’m only allowed to queue for +11. At start of season you can be allowed to queue for highest key level last season minus 5.
wouldn’t care as long as we have the current system knock yourself out with 30min to hour Q for DPS
And yet you use these LFG tools every time you play? Nothing is stopping you from getting a guild group and traveling out to Blackrock Mountain and running the holiday event, but I recon you don’t do that.
The LFG tool has been an excellent addition to the game, and unless you have direct data that shows it affected the “social” element of the game anyway, it’s just hearsay.
You must not have played Cataclysm.
i haven’t yet seen anybody explain why they think even halfway competent healers and tanks would use this
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I think make mythic 0 queue. It doesn’t require a timer either. I don’t mind the current setting. And for DPS, you will get into runs WAY faster by doing it the way it is now. Turn it into a queue, you will not like the queue times.
If they do nothing about it, I’m okay with that too. If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.
It’ll just highlight how toxic the game is.
lol do you not remember the outcry, rage and tears regarding cataclysm dungeon difficulty? Some pretty thick rose colored glasses if you think it worked out well.
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Hey don’t forget most of players are NOT 20+ like the streamer you watch. If you’re doing a 28 key with your friends, this feature has no use for you.
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