We need different class designers for monk (Week 4)

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numbers based on week ending on 11/12/2024

Performance

A follow-up from We need different class designers for Monk

According to mythicstats the top 2000 M+ keys last week for monk specs are:

  • 1% for windwalker monks (same as the previous week)
  • 1% for brewmaster monks (down 2% from the previous week)
  • 5% for mistweaver monks (down 1% from the previous week)

Among all key ranges: (popularity)

  • 3.3% for windwalker monks
  • 6.9% for brewmaster monks (lowest class of all tanks)
  • 11.1% for mistweaver monks (second lowest class of all healers)

Representation

  • MW 11.1% out of 7 possible healers (14% would represent even representation )
  • WW 3.3% out of 26 possible dps (3.8% would represent even representation )
  • Brew 6.9% out of 6 possible tanks (16% would represent even representation )

Amongst all key ranges (popularity):
Mistweaver is behind even representation by 21%.
Windwalker is behind even representation by 14%.
Brewmaster is behind even representation by 57%.

Amonst the top 2000 keys:
Mistweaver is at behind even representation by 64%.
Windwalker is behind even representation by 74%.
Brewmaster is behind even representation by 94%.

Sources:

According to mythicstats the top 2000 M+ keys last week for monk specs are:

https://mythicstats.com/period/984

Among all key ranges:

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-tww-1/all/world/leaderboards.

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as a havoc i feel you mate. i really believe both our time in this expansion will come eventually but probably not this tier. just having to eat humble pie for now. but i agree with your sentiment… it feels pretty bad rn being bottom of the barrel.

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Nah, expand that… As a “demon hunter” you don’t have a good spec to choose from either. We’re in this slog together.

Yeah I’m not calling for buffs with the posts. The problem for monk has been long lived. We need different representation in the walls at blizzard at this point.

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I dunno, the changes monks received going into TWW were pretty amazing. And the new CJL change is one of the most fun spells ever. Monk representation has always been low because most people just don’t like the asthetic of monks. That and mystic touch is the worst group buff.

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we will once again rise from the ashes and on that day i will remember you mate!

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i think windwalker is really well designed this expansion - they scale with haste and they lost alot of button bloat, their rotation feels very smooth now.

they do good dmg, they just aren’t “meta” and thus will not be a group’s first pick.

also, monks have the physical dmg debuff and the meta dps are magic dmg (frost dk, enhance shaman).

brewmasters are too squishy - they need more self sustain.

mistweavers are good healers, it’s just that they are melee healers, so to justify giving a healer a melee spot, they have to be doing alot more healing and dps than the other healers (see DF s3 when mistweaver was meta)

also mistweavers are dominating pvp (rated bg blitz specifically), so any buffs to mistweaver would set them further ahead in pvp.

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I’m not sure about that reason, while i acknowledge that there are a lot of people that play classes just by looks, dps meters and tier charts also affect how the community see a dps spec, back in SL S1 WW Monk was pretty popular with even representation among all Melee dps, after monk got nerfed to the ground ww monks hasn’t seen that much play, but that’s because it got destroyed by blizz

CJL ? idk about that man i mean if you’re having fun seeing how you deal no dmg well i think is ok, but CJL numbers are just bad for WW rright now, maybe you’re talking for MW where is it actually good and usefull, but for WW it is not

I don’t mean to attack you, but, where did you get that information ?, i mean warcraftlogs weekly raid reports says that WW is the third worst dps spec, archon and mythicstats also have WW in the low tier, if all dps are in even field and by that i mean same ilvl or at least 1~3 ilvl difference monk has no chance on dps

Specially in high keys, where you can see a lot of classes doing to 8~9mil dps on big pulls, as a ww monk if you do 4mil you’re doing the best the class can do, haven’t seen any scneario where monks can do more than 4mil

and on burst windows in ST there are a lot of classes doing 2~2.5mil monks can’t get on those numbers, i agree rework was good making every spell feeling decent at least but the dmg is lackluster

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