If Classic and this project is going to survive, Blizzard needs to start responding to this community. Every other thread is about players quitting and the sentiment that always follows is very clear…“The developer doesnt care nor communicates”
Literally a post from a Blizzard rep that says “Hey we read this” would probably make a huge difference right now.
Just a suggestion, the lack of communication from Blizzard is disrespectful to the paying customer base.
Edit: I mentioned Holly Longdale in this thread so i will more than likely be suspended for an indefinite amount of time. Witness me!
Back in the original release days, you had a blue post in pretty much every discussion within a couple days, if only to say that’s the way it is, or we’re looking into it.
Not so nowadays.
Devs and GMs were active on the forums.
This missing interaction from the devs nowadays is very unfortunate.
Yeah I wish it was like that now. But honestly look at how the community reacts to every post they make. Take the HvH test for instance, they said they were testing something and people acted like the game was gonna die over night because of it. Then when they came back and addressed the concerns and offered some stats the community called them liars.
There isn’t any point in trying to communicate when they are just going to twist your words and use everything against you.
we do, but in the original release date, the devs were actually involved in the discussion.
They explained why things were the way they are for example.
Discussions were closed with blueposts why it might be implemented or why it would be a bad idea for example. And that was the final word.
Suggestions were implemented because the devs wanted it. They had the final word, not the mob rule it seems to be today.
Today, it is more like a trickle down of information by infrequent blue posts instead of being involved in the community.
We don’t seem to get changes based on what people are asking for. We seem to get changes that are just bad for the game (subjective opinion, I suppose), and nobody seems to have asked for.
I.e. the changes to arena team starting rating, gear rating requirements, level boosts, etc.
The same faction BGs seems to fall into the category of their monitoring the data, and making changes they deem necessary, and not a reaction to forum outcry. Or at least, that has been my opinion, but what do I know?
Ghostcrawler was particularly active on the forums, and some of the changes that came out of that may be among the most controversial to date. I’m not sure that there is much in the way of evidence to support that more interaction would lead to better outcomes. But of course, as someone who plays WoW, I’d probably be interested in having more blue posts, too.
They listened, they gave the early PvP reputation set, which people are desperately asking because it was taking ages to get the BG sets with the honor, and they gave same faction BG to relieve the situation with high horde queue times.
What more do you want? Dual spec? Re-vamp of the talent trees? Balancing?
I think that it would probably matter to some people for sure.
After I mentioned Ghostcrawler, did some searching, and found this article which was quite interesting (to me):
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Developers do care if you stop playing their game and they want to know why. However, for games like WoW and LoL, the answers are almost always “I have less time to play now (job/school/family” and “My friends don’t play anymore.” (I’m basing that on having seen a lot of data - it’s not super open to debate.)
Dropping a game because of a specific design change (despite what you might read on forums / Reddit) is actually pretty rare. I know it happens, but if you’re stack ranking the reasons why people quit, those specific responses end up being so far down the list that it is hard for a development team to take actionable feedback.
Why do you need them to post something that is pointless to say? Of course they look at player feedback. You can’t put together recent changes, such as the battleground system changes and understand they’re looking at feedback? Why do you need consistent reassurance? Why wouldn’t they look at feedback?
I think the problem is as simple as there is no way they can possibly please everyone. I do believe they see these forum posts and read them or have someone who is skilled enough to sift through the garbage and troll posts to find the gems to do that.
The forums are mostly filled with posts that complain and yet never agree on things they want removed or added. I think (and I know it is just my opinion) that if they truly wanted player feedback in a meaningful way, they would log into the game anonymously and ask around in their guilds or general chat. They can get opinions from people who play the game but never post on the forums.
Or they could do an email survey and ask what works for the players and what is making them frustrated and angry.
So true.
It’s also indicative of an overall lack of ethics amongst companies towards it’s customers that has steadily gone down the crapper in the last decade.
What they really haven’t been listening to, or at least don’t appear to be, is anything about dying servers or dying sides of servers. Even with servers that were healthy at the start of TBCC.
The BG stuff (which I don’t like as anyone who’s read my stuff knows but I am aware that some people do like) and arena change stuff (that most people do not like) I think they have been looking at and fixing in the way they think is good but not really listening beyond that. As for other feedback, like the dying community stuff that makes people quit the game (silently, without a forum post), not so much imo.
Bugs are still a problem with some serious ones fixed and others not fixed for months, if they ever do get fixed. I still think TBCC was pushed out too fast. I also think they have been understaffed the entire time and have to prioritize.
The devs responded way better in the past for sure (2008 etc). I didn’t expect a lot since they have been like this with most of the Classic project.
Yes I do think that Blizzard reads the forums and mods do definitely delete stuff that’s not appropriate. Sometimes things don’t get passed around though. Anyone who has worked for a large company doing forum moderation or anything along those lines knows this.