Don’t come with those after the game is dead. It will not matter.
https://dragonflight.blizzard.com/en-us/
Classic Era for you.
Agreed. Blizz is once again failing anyone below level cap. The game will once again get top heavy in level and from there top heavy in raid logging. Then it will decay.
Not only are we not providing systems to patch the holes in the game, we stripped the biggest one away with RDF
We had the exact same problems in TBC and vanilla. Its why boosting was so big, players developed their own systems where blizzard failed to support their own game
It is not their fault. It is our fault, because we’re playing a revamped 15 years old game.
We know this is happening. It has happened throughout TBC. They can do something about it to keep the game together or let the ball drop.
CRZ is in my opinion hands down the worst change Blizzard has made to the game, and when the game to me lost a lot of Its charm, Blizzard said CRZ would be for lower-level zones too but now it’s everything.
Competing for resources with others not from your server who you can’t keep long time friends with, can’t trade with etc just so you can kill an elite or whatever is not worth it at all like absolutely not worth it. THIS is basically what turned other players into feeling like NPCs. That anyone would even suggest this being good is mind-boggling. It makes for a bad game play experience and it’s bad for the game. I don’t want to compete with resources with mega servers players if I’m on a smaller pop one. Absolutely TERRIBLE idea. No, no, no, no, no.
As for RDF it was in the original WotLK. I can see both sides. I’m impartial. So that’s whatever.
Cross-realm grouping with the tool for instances of whatever type I do not love the idea of but can see the grouping with friends thing so would be 10x more ok with that than CRZ which I think never added anything AT ALL of value to the game and only took away.
For low level areas it helps to keep the feeling that you’re playing in a world, not alone.
Go now, Durotar. Start a level 1 character. there is no one there.
It fix the problem that we have moved to a new expansion, it brings together people from everywhere into the same place to play together.
Gosh, it even allow us to make friends cross-realms. Why is this a bad idea at all.
To keep my forum profile I post on this character which I have transferred realms with but leveled up again to have a “max level for the forums” character. I leveled again when the server was dying. Yes, this is weird I know but I’m getting to a point.
I actually kind of enjoyed leveling with not many people around. Seeing elite mobs. Being able to farm mats. Not having mob competition in general. Now for those who don’t like this they can go to bigger servers and still have more people around,
CRZ does not. CRZ takes away server choice and makes everything the same in addition to what I already said. One of the differences with the original game is having more of a choice with server things.
I’m passionate about this for a reason. I really think CRZ has harmed the game over any other change that’s been made.
yeah, nah.
I’m not speaking about Classic launch levels of people around.
And do not forget that is how you feel. This is not a solo game, it is a MMO and the feel of a MMO should be maintained even if you’re playing early game or end game.
Saying that these changes are "retail like’ is off he chart because we’re getting changes that are retail like (heroic+) and others which were not present in OG WoTLK.
You’re talking about SOLO gaming. That is not World of Warcraft, not at all.
Nope, CRZ was one of the single worst changes they made to the game. Sure it’s nice seeing people, but no one cares about people from another server so really all they are most of the time is a hinderance to doing whatever it is you are doing in those zones.
RDF for low levels I can absolutely get behind, CRZ should be set on fire.
Besides if we are going to start doing all of this kind of stuff we might as well just shut Classic down, it’s just retail at that point with less content.
Explain me HOW CRZ for people leveling from 1-70 is a bad thing to the game.
You’re not even there.
I always thought it was so funny how megaserver people said we don’t need RDF, LFG is fine and there’s always people around.
But also at the same time whining nonstop about queues.
They really wanted to have their cake and to eat it too.
This is the point when you should know that you need to go back to retail.
For one thing it causes a ton of phasing issues/mounting issues. Then once you change zones you leave the people that were around and will come back into an area with an entirely different group completely removing the " finding friends" part you want to tag on it. Then you get into issues with resource farming from high levels in these zones ( yes it has been a major problem in the past ) and the low levels being unable to level professions as they go.
The only upside is that you see bodies running around and most of them will hate seeing you to start with because it just means competition.
This is 2022, no one in those zones are leveling for the first time. There are no new players coming in to worry about to begin with.
I like how these low level alts just come around trolling, afraid of posting with their mains and just being laughed at.
Ok, so technical issues.
How long have you played the game with CRZ? It has improved a lot and these issues do not exist anymore. It works entirely different.
You are confusing sharding (and the ability to being transported to another realm through the cross-realm LFG on retail) with the actual cross realm zone, which is, basically, a cross realm zone between certain or many realms.
Also, you have to factor in layering, which has the exact same issues you have reported but apparently I don’t see you complaining about layering at all here.
So, basically you’re against it because of your bad experience with very early versions (which they had) plus the misconception of CRZ and actual sharding and cross-realm LFG.
Thanks for your posts Caelle. Those are my thoughts as well.
Personally, I have dozens if not hundreds of posts talking about not liking layering. I really don’t like that they kept it in past the launch of TBCC and it killed Classic servers and was the biggest cause of the queue issues at the start of Wrath. Among the other reasons, I don’t like it.
I have played Retail even recently and know about changes that were done to minimize complaints. Shared resource nodes. Mob tagging where you share with those on your faction. Personal loot. Easy elite mobs that you can solo. These are also all things you can get from playing Retail. We don’t need two games that are for the same audience.
That environment gets people around that are the equivalent of other players being NPCs. On Retail, I’ve had a few positive experiences with people being nice or calling out rare spawns but that’s only about 0.001% of the experience. I haven’t added a single friend over any of it, and I highly doubt anyone else has either.
The thing I did see that really mostly started from CRZ was in the original game my server was medium pop and it had a tight little server community. World PVP against the same people a lot of the time. We’d cross-faction chat and trash talk on the forums. You’d run into the same people in general. CRZ was that point where I really started to see this community disappear, and I hated it. I see it as the primary cause of what I really loved about wow disappearing (server community).
Look you can suggest what you want to on these forums, and I don’t think that Blizzard will listen to this suggestion if they haven’t even put RDF in, and I’m not even arguing about RDF, but that is my opinion and it’s absolutely not about wanting a single player game but for all the other reasons I said.
Excuse me, if anyone’s trolling here it’s you.
You’re not excused. In fact, welcome to the ignore list, irrelevant minion.
RDF? i wouldn’t mind it…but CRZ?
insert Michael Scott “no God please no!” gif
1000% agree with you on this. CRZ is just awful. Cata was the beginning of the decline for WoW for me, and i imagine i’m not the only one who feels that way.