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If you were capable of holding an intellectually honest conversation, the topic didnt stop there. He straight up said not even that long after that post that you literally responded to and admitted you were just going off your thought process like you are the only one this post or any post like it talks about
you literally agreed with us and then acted like we are telling you what to think for you
Literally no one asked if it was your approach, nor did anyone say it was. You’re just acting like we are telling you what you were thinking. We weren’t. We were telling you, because apparently you needed to be told and couldnt just read this post (or posts like it) that people DO have this approach and are trying to be vocal on the forums, and in this very thread, about said approach.
When they removed it from the vendor in BfA.
Point being that Blizzard changes their mind when they see fit and that no Q&A with a single person is a final answer on anything.
No. I disagreed that it should never happen. The statement that it should never happen is undeniably there whether people budged on that AFTERWARDS or not.
I then agreed that it should be more difficult if it does happen. We up to date now? Sorry I clipped out all of the fluff and condescension but that seems to be the meat of your reply.
Generally speaking people will present their own position on a thing and then argue from that position. Rather than simply adopting the most extreme position on every subject they see.
I agree that there are people who would like it if delves dropped mythic track at the current difficulty but that doesn’t mean I have to argue on their behalf.
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You don’t actually want harder dungeons.
If the timer stresses you out, you would immediately flop on actual hard content.
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This doesnt mean what you think it means.
Thats why it has a $90 price tag
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uhh wut. So you wanna go from no timer to omg timer when all the affixes are set in?
Maybe bring it in at +5… but no higher than that.
What is Prestige? Can I use it to upgrade my gear?
Delves are boring and M+ was trash this season. Many people quit raiding years ago and aren’t going back.
There was effectively no meaningful endgame content this season for a large portion of the playerbase. Blizzard missed the mark by miles with the changes going into TWW which is why participation is way down compared to DF.
There is no timer on heroic or mythic raids. You can attempt the same boss over and over until you get the dance down. M+ key, you get one chance
The new one costs upwards of 1m gold and is available for 3 months. The repair mount costs 20k off a vendor for 15 years. Nothing they said conflicts with the new brutosaur being added.
Please stop ignoring enrage timers.
The raid boss is one event.
The entire m+ dungeon is one event.
M+ is more spammable than raids.
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How is a M+ 10+ key to Dawn or something spammable? You get one shot at it, if you fail, your key is depleted and you may not get that same key for days, or find another group to run it.
Not really sure what it is but these Mythic Plus dungeons are just not keeping me interested. Maybe I am just finally over this forced to beat a timer Blizzard seems to be set on. You only need a timer to be competitive. Not in your daily gameplay. I have also been in those groups when a tank gets too comfortable, pulls a bunch more than he should, dies, kills the group, then up and leaves because the key is bricked. I rarely use my own key outside of guild groups. We should feel secure in using our own key.
I say again, the metric to progress needs to not be a damn timer. You should be rewarded for using your tools. I mean you don’t CC anything in these dungeons anymore because you simply can’t afford the waste of time. It’s pull a group, know who to interrupt and AoE them down. Over and over. Same thing in every dungeon. Maybe that is why it is so boring to me. Aside from the boss fights the trash is the same across the board because you handle it the same way.
And people wonder why I refuse to tank anymore. I used to be a guild progression MT. I am strategic, not all about this rushing around to beat a timer,
That comes down to how you fill out your group.
Every piece of challenging content has incorporated a time constraint of some sort, otherwise the strategy is 5 blood dks.
Objectively false.
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Ya this one might be on a case-by-case basis but I sure as hell have not seen any form of real crowd control used that wasn’t to just sneak past to avoid mobs that don’t need to be killed for percentage.
Again, that is my experience thus far in this expansion. Your experience may differ and that is okay.
I still think other metrics for success should be used. Like how about zero deaths because you took your time and actually did a good job. That type of behavior is unwelcome in these Mythic + dungeons. IMO
This feels like an issue with the groups you choose. You should absolutely be using your stuns, knockbacks, silences, etc. Cast-time CC is less common outside of the warlock aoe stun, but there’s plenty of crowd control you should be using beyond just rebuke
5 Blood DKs
Also, doing a good job is the primary behaviour in mythic+. A good job doesn’t mean a snail’s pace
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I dunno man. I ran like 5 mists today alone, all between 8-10 trying to help someone farm a changeling.
Did they get the changeling?
They did not. I swear, early in the season I saw like 5 drop in 4 runs. Which, yes, meant a double drop.
That thing eluded my group for two seasons of shadowlands. I know the pain though