We need an Evil Faction

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Go play GTA Online then and stay there.

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There’s no reason in even having two factions with the current story

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No one said that there could not be 2 evil factions, one would go after Alliance cities and the other Horde cities.

However, if the alliance are the good guys, and the Horde are the pragmatic good guys, there is a spot for the evil faction to be the dark/unfeeling pragmatists like how the Forsaken could have easily been even within the Horde.

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I’d join a third evil faction if I meant I could PvP the other two in a second.

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Isn’t the red one the evil one?

What with all the necromancy, bloodthirsty alien invaders, sacrificial blood magic and drug addicts.

Throw in the Goblins greed who were willing to let the world die to make a quick buck.

I’d say we already have a pretty “evil/morally black” faction.

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This is like a 5 year olds understanding of the word. There is a lot more that makes a good villain than “they do lots of bad stuff.”

We get it, you watched the Incredibles once.

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I’d say you read more into the story than how people play. <3

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Well what is it that you really want? Do you want real evil, or do you want saturday morning cartoon evil?

Because WoW evil is the latter, and has never been the former. WoW has never been about realistic geopolitics and complex, realistic narratives where people do evil things because it is more convenient, or because they’re flawed.

So if you want WoW’s brand of evil, that’s fine. But it’s not any more inherently mature than everyone being perfect bosom buddies.

WoW doesn’t necessarily need playable evil factions. What it needs is more complex factions within the factions. That’s the problem with WoW’s writing right now.

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Since at least Warcraft III it hasn’t ever been true in-universe.

As far as I know my lore, not since Warcraft II either. Can’t speak for the OG Warcraft though, and I haven’t played Warcraft II and it being a few years since I looked it up I can’t speak with 100% confidence. But in-universe for the past 40+ years the Horde haven’t been “the bad guys” (in all honesty for way longer than that), and out of universe at least for 22 years.

Learn some basic lore if you are going to talk about lore.

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there is an evil faction - the horde is pure evil

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Sorry, I don’t see any Cult of the Damned, Twilight’s Hammer, Burning Legion, etc propaganda in the Horde.

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More irony…

Of the two factions, the horde have always been ’ the bad guys '.
I’d tell you to read some lore as well, but I don’t think that is your issue.

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Here you go.

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Maybe just in the sense of one being the protagonist, the other the antagonist.

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Then what’s it about?

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That’s one way of looking at it.
But wouldn’t that require one to be doing bad things for the other to act against?

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I thought for sure they were creating a 3rd “evil” faction to spice things up. That would be some good fantasy role playing.

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The horde vs alliance thing is played out. It’s not about being hippies and more along the lines of mutual survival about constant world ending threats. It would be stupid for them to keep fighting when there’s another apocalypse every 2 years.

If you don’t like that type of storytelling, that’s fine. But having the horde fight for a few months between every catastrophic event is incredibly dumb.

And no, I wouldn’t say we necessarily need an evil faction. Plenty of great storytelling, and in fact some of the best storytelling, is done in grey areas where there is no obvious right and wrong.

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This entire statement is incorrect on many levels. Mostly a lot of it is subjective and not fact, but it’s also just a bad take.

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give the horde demonic looks and they can be more evil