We need a pvp server. War mode can stay on normal servers

I mean we have classic servers to look at.
Population? fine
issue is that most of pvp servers become mono faction, the exception is that 1 rp-pvp server.

Same thing in retail, the traditional pvp server was emerald dream every other pvp server was populated, but mono faction.

Good Luck. However, I don’t think Blizzard wants to manage populations on a PVP server. They would have to make sure that there are similar numbers per faction at every level to keep things balanced. Are they going to stop people from playing if there are too many of one faction online?

“Sorry, you can’t play horde today because too many people are online”

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Sure. But why does it go this way?

It seems to me people wouldn’t resort to this if a fair challenge is what they hoped to get out of the server.

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they did it in sod.
Worked for some servers like living flame and lone wolf but not for crusader strike server due the streamer effect(lots come to play with streamers, streamers leave, that faciton becomes “dead” and unbalanced)

wasnt much of a headache after the first weeks since then, can relate lone wolf pop is pretty balanced.

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Normal servers don’t want war mode either! poor war mode. all it did was try to make everyone happy and it failed twice. Take note peeps. That’s how you fail in 2024. Miss two stones with one bird.

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They used to but not anymore. Because a bunch of players rolled on PvP Servers (because that’s where all the “good” raiding guilds were, and people followed them, to join them) and complained about getting “ganked” or attacked when “they don’t feel like PvPing”.

Classic has the original PvP Servers you’re looking for (shout out to Phase 2 in Vanilla Classic LOL https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/meanwhile-in-pve-realms/364291). Personally, I think PvP Servers are silly. That being said, I’m not opposed to it, but I just know Blizz isn’t going to do it. And, I’ll be here fighting with people who purposefully picked PvP Servers complaining about being on a…well, PvP Server…

:woman_shrugging:

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I already play pvp servers on classic, but with the new expansion coming out… I want to enjoy it like everyone else. But on a server with like minded players

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GL with that. I still think PvP Servers are silly. I doubt Retail will see a return of PvP Servers.

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Except it literally is. Friend group is on a pvp server. No one wants to engage with Wpvp in any meaningful way. And you just get ganked by players who are a higher level or of you’re vastly out numbered.

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Why not just turn warmode on?

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The problem with PvP servers was that a lot of (really uninformed) people rolled on them and then felt “trapped” because they had no interest in PvP.

Since classic reboots itself with new servers for the latest gimmick every few months, it doesn’t have the server longevity where this would ever be an issue.

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If people are rolling on a server that says “PVP server”, with no interest in pvp, then I think there is a whole different problem here.

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What about making war mode all servers connected together in one big war mode that sounds better

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I agree but it happened for years and is why PvP servers were removed.

I was always astonished how many people I would run into who said, “I thought PvP server meant I could choose when to PvP” but there were a TON of them.

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Well that’s fine because now we have normal servers with war mode where you can be on a PvE server but choose to try war mode if you want.

So that should solve the problem of people “accidentally” rolling on a pvp server.

I don’t even care if there is a warning message before joining the pvp server

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You could always turn PvP on and off, on normal servers. Didn’t stop people from locking themselves on a PvP server and then complaining about it. And Blizzard is all about catering to the lowest common denominator, when it comes to complaints.

Even on a normal server, we had to deal all the time with “people TRICKED ME into flagging for pvp!” and other such nonsense. It was constant.

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How does someone get tricked in to flagging for pvp?

The complaints happened a lot at the end of MoP, when there was that thing that gave you special coins for killing other players.

So people would run around flagged, on the island.

And then, when they were near somebody else, the non-flagged player would ATTACK THEM and then complain that they were flagged for PvP now.

Because “he tricked me”.

(I wish I was making this up. But we kept hearing it over and over again.)

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I’d like a PVP server where you choose any race and join either faction, and when you log in you can choose to be a mercenary for one faction or play normally. It’s locked so no faction can have too many more people online than the other, but you aren’t locked from playing your character. You can just Merc for a while.

I would welcome PVP server if only to camp those afk bots. Since the old PVP server were de-PVP’d and we got war mode, those bots only farmed with WM off.

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