As of this week there is still 12 specs below ele, with ele being a very solid middle of the pack spec. You’re beating 2/3 mage specs, and tying frost. You’re beating all rogue and warrior specs.
Still not seeing the issue.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/29#difficulty=4&dataset=90&aggregate=amount&sample=7
First: all bosses is a meme graph when damage amp fights exist, especially fights like anduin where uncapped aoe classes get damage amps during uncapped aoe, even so ele is doing ok, but seriously pick a better graph.
Second: the reason why people are mad isn’t just the damage loss its that its a large damage loss from a so called “accessibility change” that made one of ele’s prominent talents feel awful. I personally would have been fine if they said “we’re nerfing storm elemental because the sims looked cuhrazy”, but they framed a nerf as savage as what frost mages got going into the patch as some benign “accessibility change”. Just like frozen orb this patch storm ele feels like hot garbage in comparison to what it was, just in gameplay because yes it still works. Its also a bit insulting to get a nerf as heavy handed as the frost mage and venth boomy nerfs despite not being nearly as meta. Especially after those nerfs just seemed to let other classes go cuhrazy instead rather then removing outliers.
Yes they are, so the “outrage” over the nerf is stupid.
Also, the graph is fine. Anduin has ele at 7th overall. If you pick through other individual bosses Ele is 4th on Skolex, 8th on Rygelon, 9th on Xymox, 10th on Halondrus, 8th on Lihuvium, 11th on Jailer… the only fight ele does especially bad on is the easiest most irrelevant fight in the tier (Guardian).
All quite good, in the top half and far better than many of specs. All this tantrum over a nerf to a degenerate playstyle is ridiculous. Pretending the graph is bad is just copium - especially considering the overall for Mythic, which is far less relevant, has Ele at 3rd overall.
The outrage over the nerf is justified, just like all the other people salty about other similar heavy handed nerfs that didn’t seem necessary later. Storm ele feels like garbage, and they had a massive chance to change the build in bfa where it was even more degenerate then it would have been now, and even more chances for all of shadowlands, but the second we get theoretical access to tier its apparently an “accessibility issue”. Ele’s apm isn’t and wasn’t going to be particularly high in a world where fire mage casts between casts and fury warrior exists.
Also once again the issue is that it wasn’t framed as a nerf, but the change was about as heavy handed as nerfs get, in addition that nerf week 1 alongside the fury one that killed necrolord fury before ele or fury even looked nerfable. This change noticably made ele less fun to play and its not just because of numbers.
Also once again all bosses is a meme metric I’m half arguing against you because you should stick to fights that actually show how a class performs rather then which classes won the fight design lottery, all fights is has a noticeable bias toward aoe classes this tier, and in most tiers. For Anduin ele did 27k at 90th percentile. The all bosses average is 14k. There are two fights where ele shaman was actually 90th percentile over 14k, anduin at 27k and lords of dread at 17k.
muted, crap post
They need to bring back the hybrid tax
Hey Op.
No one who plays a class ASKS for nerfs. Just sayin’