Wow it not a issue now so why make it one… this is pointless and nothing bfa needed or wanted
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They will make most of the equipment craftable and make it sound like they’re doing a great thing by giving professions new recipes. Then they’ll quietly take away the usefulness of the older items.
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My main issue is that this is addressing a problem that doesn’t even really exist. If anyone feels forced to use a specific mount, that’s their problem. I don’t think anyone actually uses the water strider as their only mount. I only mount up on it when I need to cross some water, and then when I’m across I mount up on a different mount.
Why do we have to pay gold for something we already paid for in the past, both in time and gold? Why is it that it is just now a problem? We’ll all be flying soon enough anyway, how does this help anything at all? IMO, if you want to make it truly fair, make the water shoes off the Anglers’ vendor free. We shouldn’t have to pay to unlock something we already have.
If you’re going to do this, then why let the Sky Golem keep its ability? Put it on a mount equipment just like everything else. Why should it get special treatment? I was honestly really excited for mount equipment until I heard about this change.
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Will they be happy if no one uses the water strider they worked for,and decide that grinding rep in the future is useless,as Blizz will just take away the perks anyway?
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Somehow they think that tanks will take the parachute ability.Does that mean that tanks will start getting dazed?Are they taking that away too?
That’s a huge issue with not just BFA but the game in general: their wishy-washy stance on professions. Some expansions they’re great, others meh and now most are pretty much also-rans.
In MOP jc was incredible, every chest piece had like 3 sockets and a full on bis set of gear could have upwards of 24. Now you have to get a lucky roll to get even one. Enchanting used to have around 8-10 slots; now you have 4 or 5 if you’re the enchanter. Armor crafting professions are reduced to selling on-use items because they inexplicably made the actual armor BOP.
It’s like Blizzard, either make professions useful all the time, or make them a 5 minute diversion and essentially just cosmetic.
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Well, if we have nothing but the mount equipment system, they aren’t taking it away, you’ll just have to choose…and re-choose…burning through all of that gold each time.
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Unless the problem Blizzard is telling us isn’t really the problem they’re trying to address. Blue posts in this thread strongly suggest that Blizzard is looking for a way to limit our travel options yet again. First they take away passive water walking, give us a way to give all mounts that ability at the exclusion of being able to equip other mount equipment items. Then all they have to do is take away bardings and stirrups, or at the very least not give us replacements next expansion when the current ones stop working. Then we’ll have to choose between water walking, anti stun, or their parachute. Interact with objects won’t be an option except for herbalism on the sky golem. No more stacked effects for max efficiency ground movement. sigh
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And they seem utterly oblivious to the fact that people don’t enjoy this for the same reason people don’t enjoy reading their paycheck stubs and seeing 40% of their income gone from taxes. We like to keep what we earn. Taxes are necessary, this is not.
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I think the complaints are overblown: at most you are losing a couple gold per character to buy the extra water equipment for alts, but if they send a free copy to each character you make that hits 20, even that’s not a loss.
Ultimately, I think the simplest solution is this: if you don’t put anything in mount equipment on a character, all mounts work as on live. If you put anything in, all mounts lose all special abilities.
If you want to use mount equipment, you get to! If you want to have a water strider that can walk on water, you get to!
If you want to not get dazed on one mount, and walk on water on another… You can’t, just like you can’t on live. Nothing is lost.
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I agree with this. Whenever I’m on a character who is an herbalist and not riding my golem/lumber mount I feel like I’m doing something wrong. It’s crazy they see no problem with that mount ability but have such disdain for water walking.
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That’s the whole point though. We already spent the time. We already spent the gold. Why do we have to spend even more gold to re-unlock something we already had? At least having to learn new flying skills for each continent made sense. How does a water strider just magically forget how to stride on the water?
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You say a couple gold per character.!000g is not a couple gold to many people.I could put equipment on my Dino and and all of my alts and not care.Most of my guildies are not in that situation.We have a couple of members with max alts on 4 or more servers. I dislike the precedent this sets,and the way it will make me feel about grinding rep for perks in the future.My friends and team mates will feel it’s too expensive,and others are just tired of things being taken away.
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Sounds a lot like Chicken Little to me. Have they actually said any of that?
As of right now, we aren’t losing anything, just being offered alternatives. The only legitimate complaints I’ve seen are those worried about the cost, and even that we don’t know yet.
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I mean, every expansion you have to spend more time and gold to re-unlock things you already have, as you mention flying. Professions are another scenario where you spend time and gold to get back to where you were relative to where the game is now.
If the gold is a lot, then you have a reasonable gripe. If it’s really 1g, I will have no sympathy.
How would you feel about the suggested compromise, by the way?
As I stated way the hell up there somewhere, I think they’re trying to implement a system that will end up being non-expansion specific. In other words, a way to carry over a system into the next expansion, that allows for use through the rest of the games lifespan, and give mount perks some usage in earlier expansion content. It’s a noble venture, really. But looking at what’s being offered, there’s no other choices I would choose. Ever. I’ve become accustom to being dazed and dismounted…using speed buffs or interact while mounted buffs, gliders, etc.
Limiting it to just one choice? Mine being water walking?
Nah
Don’t like it.
Nowhere has it been said that that’s an option. We’ve been told people who have the water strider will get one free water walking item. Not one per alt.
Except the water strider which will no longer be able to stride on water.
Except you can. You can actually have water walking, anti-daze, interact with objects while mounted and still use a goblin glider on any mount. If these items go away, which seems likely, that won’t be an option. You’ll have to choose one effect only for each character’s mounts.
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I’d be fine with the compromise, if it weren’t for the fact that the specific example you mentioned can already be done in game. Just equip some barding and mount up on your water strider and you get both the benefits.
They said on stream that they expect it to be 1000 gold per equipment piece.
It was a suggestion, wherein if you didn’t put anything in mount equipment, all mounts would work as on live. I understand that’s not what is currently proposed.
If those items go away, then those items go away, but that’s unrelated to this discussion, which is related to the water strider and mount equipment.