Water Strider Discussion

[Zerach-arthas]

Would it be possible to have the water strider be like the sky golem. It can have innate water walking but is not effected by mount equipment?

I will check but my personal opinion from my play experience is that the water strider ability is just much stronger than the sky golem herbing. We nerfed the water strider once and if we leave it with the ability there then it’s more in the line of getting everything and less of making a choice for what you want. We want there to be a choice based on your play and interests. If herbing on the run provides too strong of a benefit then there might need to be changes there but currently I don’t think that’s the case.

An inherent problem with your point of view here is that if water-walking is the de-facto best mount ability, then 90% of players are just going to use that on all mounts anyway. I would much prefer to be able to try out other mount equipment for areas without water and continue using an alternate hotkey to mount my water strider when I need water-walking - just as I do now. Leaving water-walking on the water strider would allow it to retain its original functionality, and I doubt there will be nearly as many people upset about not being able to use other mount equipment on their water strider compared to how many people clearly want it to retain its current ability.

[Chimalli-rexxar]

There’s enough broken stuff in this game, stop wasting time fixing a problem that doesn’t exist.

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

Why not make the new ‘glyphs’ per mount (account wide) so different people will have different abilities on different mounts.

Because that would be fun, give players real choices, and not limit us to only following the path that the devs choose for us. Your idea is intelligent and easily doable, so of course it will never happen.

[Hokulani-dark-iron]

Why penalize the reward on an alt? Making the value into something character-specific implies there’s a reason that people should want to repeat the requirement to obtain it. Y’all made mounts account-wide for a reason. Why would you want to unwind that?

[Ooma-gurubashi]

They know that.
They’re hardly going to sell us carrots we don’t need.

And because it’s so useful, every time we switch to another equipment we’ll need to switch back to water walking, creating a constant need for more gold/tokens.

[Xintao-tichondrius]

I have to agree but this is Blizzard. They don’t know what fun is anymore in their own game.

[Madbeatz-blackrock (Madbeatz)]

do you feel that alts should have every single thing that the other characters have?

The point is that when we earned the mount in the first place - we knew that alts would have access to it. Changing it after the fact is what is causing the issue.

If you made a change where only the characters that looted mount drops off bosses could use the mount there would be similar backlash from the players that spent time earning and farming those mounts.

Many people wouldn’t have put the time into it if they knew it was going to be that restricting.

But more importantly - why do you keep ignoring the most common suggestion: why not treat the strider like the golem when it still accomplishes the goals communicated to us?

Or any other suggestion that also accomplishes the goals communicated to us and also doesn’t impact those who have already earned the strider? e.g. Make the equipment slots by mount, and apply account-wide; strider owners get EXACTLY what they earned, and have had for YEARS, and the player base gets great options for how they want to customize and utilize their mount collection.

[Hylianlich-boulderfist (Hylianlich)]

They know what fun is how else can they be so good at snuffing it out?

[Curoar-sargeras (Curoar)]

The mount system is account bound. This has been confirmed several times over.

[Sabine-dawnbringer (Sabine)]

Would it be possible to have the water strider be like the sky golem. It can have innate water walking but is not effected by mount equipment?

I will check but my personal opinion from my play experience is that the water strider ability is just much stronger than the sky golem herbing. We nerfed the water strider once and if we leave it with the ability there then it’s more in the line of getting everything and less of making a choice for what you want. We want there to be a choice based on your play and interests. If herbing on the run provides too strong of a benefit then there might need to be changes there but currently I don’t think that’s the case.

Leaving the water strider alone like the golem would be the same thing. It would not be able to use any of the other equipment and only have the water walking. You can make the choices on other mounts to your hearts content. The strider should be left as it is, there are a lot of people that worked to get the special mounts that you created and locked behind a rep wall.

[Martei-skywall (Martei)]

Catch may be that you have to buy this thing for every single character you have.

[Matara-illidan]

So thanks for belittling all the farming for the water strider that everyone who owns it did. Pretty sad how often blizzard gives in to whiny fans who don’t want to farm a rep for a water walking mount. It doesn’t even take that long to farm…

[Brahmina-khadgar (Brahmina)]

Also, just out of curiosity, how often would you estimate that you have you used the water strider mount in the 6+ years it’s been available?

Not nearly as often as I use my flying mounts. Of course, in places covered with water where there is no flying, yes, I use the strider. Maybe if we weren’t forced to wade through swamps, we wouldn’t feel the need to have a water walking mount. Did it occur to anyone at Blizz that the water strider’s apparent “dominance” could be entirely due to their design choices?

Note: The mount(s) I use most often in BfA at the moment are my Mechanohog, my love bird, and the green unicorn from Legion–not the water strider.

[Madbeatz-blackrock (Madbeatz)]

We nerfed the water strider once and if we leave it with the ability there then it’s more in the line of getting everything and less of making a choice for what you want.

Why restrict what it is “we want”?

Why not give us the choice of which mounts get what benefits?

I have a few mounts I’d like to have the water-walking ability on.

I have a bunch of favorited mounts that I’d like to have the non-daze equipment, and a few others that would be cool to have the parachute equipment on.

This is what choice without needless restrictions looks like - why do you guys keep ignoring this?

[Hylianlich-boulderfist (Hylianlich)]

Another terrible excuse I hear that supports this bad idea is people saying they are tired of seeing others use the water strider, when did we start caring what mounts other players use in the game if that’s their complaint maybe they should start targeting all two seater mounts or the Yak since everyone and their mom are riding those.

[Xintao-tichondrius]

Blizz lies constantly so yeah that isn’t surprising. They are nerfing strider first then golem next. The slow boil effect.

You have been warned.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Not nearly as often as I use my flying mounts. Of course, in places covered with water where there is no flying, yes, I use the strider. Maybe if we weren’t forced to wade through swamps, we wouldn’t feel the need to have a water walking mount. Did it occur to anyone at Blizz that the water strider’s apparent “dominance” could be entirely due to their design choices?

Ha! Excellent answer. I like you.

[Jyinifur-moon-guard]

this is exactly why I don’t have a paid for subscription, if I can’t use gold. I won’t play anymore. This is ridiculous and their whole attitude towards the player base is more than annoying.

I don’t care if you want other mounts to water walk, I do care about taking away from something I put time and effort into, which by your very definition Blizz is the reason for us playing the game. Everything is a time sink.

So, why then, should we continue playing said time sink, if you are just going to take away all the rewards.

Because I don’t believe you that you won’t take this system and when Mr, Has it cost us, and Friends and Activision say they aren’t making enough money, you won’t say that hey, let’s take something else away to make players stay longer.

I’m telling ya now, it’s gonna have the opposite effect. People don’t want to be traveling everywhere to play the good parts of the game, and you are making dumb decisions that are going to kill the game we all love.

[Toploin-winterhoof]

Terrible change. There’s no solid reason to remove the water-walking passive on the strider mount. This is just a cheap way to make players pursue “mount equipment”, which they would do even without nerfing the strider mount.

[Chimalli-rexxar]

My wife and I do a lot of things together. I mainly use my bike and my sandstone drake because I can carry her. Should we remove that ability from all multi person mounts and make that a mount equipment slot also?