Water Strider Discussion

[Jops-zuljin]

Even if it’s existence by default makes other mounts functionally obsolete, with the gear system you can take the freedom back.

Not completely. And not without giving something else up to get an inferior version back.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

And for those of us that spent thousands on skill training?

Or gathering the items for our class mount quest?

Do you still have that skill and class mount? Did Blizzard take it from you and make you buy it back? Well the time work and gold I put in to a mount is being taken from me. Is my time worthless compared to every one else.? Yea sure I will still have a replacement mount, but it can’t do the same thing when i bought it. I already had regular ground mounts, I would have never bought it as a regular mount

[Cairnage-greymane (Cairnage)]

Allowing the Water Strider to maintain its waterwalking ability while also allowing it to take on another equipment, such as slowfall, would be blatantly OP and would ensure once again that players only utilized Water Striders which runs contrary to the point of mount equipment.

I guess this guy skipped the 20 or 30 so posts above that explains no one is asking for water walking AND a m ount equipment slot.

I guess he also missed all th posts showing that as a Blood DK I can have every single available mount equipment perk and its not OP. All 5 perks is Not OP. Yet somehow, if people actually did ask for it, 2 would be OP?

[Jackofdemons-thrall (Jackofdemons)]

Well our class mount used to be able to water walk and now it can’t… So…

[Jops-zuljin]

The only valid complaint imo.

And only because I’ll never buy water walking mount equipment.

Which is pretty much exactly what Ion / Blizzard intended with this change.

[Righteous-garrosh (Righteous)]

The entire discussion is centered around having to buy the 40g water walking equipment.

No. The discussion is about the removal of a mount’s ability that is being replaced by an inferior version that’s disposable and has a price attached. That price in inconsequential.

[Urrik-moon-guard]

Allowing the Water Strider to maintain its waterwalking ability while also allowing it to take on another equipment, such as slowfall, would be blatantly OP and would ensure once again that players only utilized Water Striders which runs contrary to the point of mount equipment.

We’re not asking for this. What we are asking for is that they leave the water strider’s water walking ability alone, and exempt it from using equipment, just like they’re doing with the sky golem.

[Jops-zuljin]

Well our class mount used to be able to water walk and now it can’t… So…

That was a glyph, not an attribute of the class mount.

They tried to quietly remove Warlock’s [Water Breathing] ability too, but were apparently dissuaded or forgot.

[Cairnage-greymane (Cairnage)]

We’re not asking for this

LOL I guess I will never get tired of debinking this “strawman” (did I use that correctly) argument.

They have NO valid reason to force the change on the strider except to lie or simply say I want to break it.

[Urrik-moon-guard]

Well our class mount used to be able to water walk and now it can’t… So…

Yet another example of needless pruning that has happened in this game. In my opinion, they should have left that ability intact, and not gotten rid of it.

[Righteous-garrosh (Righteous)]

just like they’re doing with the sky golem.

And all of the current and, most likely, upcoming swimming mounts.

[Kiwì-dentarg (Kiwì)]

My cat will be so depressed she loved watching the water strider and listening to it’s pidder patter.

I’m with your cat! I love the noises the water strider makes! It is sad that they are ruining that mount all because they are catering to people who don’t want to earn stuff.

[Jops-zuljin]

And all of the current and, most likely, upcoming swimming mounts.

Now that I think about it… maybe that’s part of the reason Ion/etc hate water striders. They put in all these swimming mounts, but they’re so much slower than water walking that people prefer not to use them.

[Cairnage-greymane (Cairnage)]

Just had a thought. What if:

Changing your mount equipment could be built into a macro?

The closest thing people have to an argument is it will take time to change the “gem” vs just mounting a different mount (strider).

If it is able to be macro’d to add gem and mount, they would lose even that

[Jops-zuljin]

Changing your mount equipment could be built into a macro?

Given that the crafted mount equipment types are likely going to cost around 1000g, probably not something you want to be swapping out frequently.

ETA: Also I think like gems/gear you can’t meddle with it while in combat. It also seems to take a strangely long time to acknowledge that you’ve slotted something.

[Cairnage-greymane (Cairnage)]

probably not something you want to be swapping out frequently.

True, but I was more looking at excuses to force the strider to change. If it COULD be macro’d the only argument they would have left is we want this to be a gold sink vs “its fun and engaging” gameplay they argue now

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

And all of the current and, most likely, upcoming swimming mounts.

They are only removing 1 mounts ability. Just one. and leaving all other mounts alone. This mount equipment is nothing more than a reason to kill the water strider. Everything the mount equipment is offering is already in game.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

Given that the crafted mount equipment types are likely going to cost around 1000g

I will be able to make them all with alts, I will never post one under 5k gold and I hope that no one else will either.

[Datgobdisco-kiljaeden]

I was unaware the Sky Golem would be unaffected. The argument is sound in that context, if the Sky Golem gets to maintain it’s unique effect while being immune to mount equipment, the Water Strider should be afforded the same privilege as long as it is also immune to mount equipment.

Again, my reply was to the OP. Moving forward I think there’s a way I can show that in my post because there’s no way im going through 5.5K posts to get an understanding of where the convo has shifted to.

So to reiterate my stance, im all for the Water Strider maintaining it’s unique effect for free as long as it follows the same parameters as the Sky Golem and is unaffected by mount equipment. I do not support the Water Strider maintaining its effect while also gaining a benefit of mount equipment as that is far too powerful.

[Lillyann-llane (Lillyann)]

You’re kidding yourself though. The market will flood and the prices will drop. The problem is, how much and will it get to the point where the trade picks up and blizz says its a success.