Water Strider Discussion

Adding more mounts with this feature does address this. And so the the potion. People can use whatever the heck mount they want with the potion already.

If they want players to be happy with mount equipment, they are going about it the wrong way. Stripping away things and giving them back as “gifts” at a price is ridiculous.

I would , at this point, like to ask Blizzard a simple request for future special mounts/abilities/traits/, anything pertaining to having to ‘earn’ for rep, in order to have a ‘stand out’ anything.

Please don’t waste our time, having us earn it. You waste our time, and our desire to earn something special.
Blizzard is the entity which decided in the first place, to begin sharing things, like, mounts, pets, rep, etc… You homogenized our characters first, then you began with the homogenization of everything else.
It should not matter than all our characters can have the Water Strider , even its current ability. We took the time to earn the rep. We jumped through your hoops. We ground out the rep required for it.
(For FUTURE arguments, we also earned the Herbing Mount already)
I haven’t checked to see lately, but there used to be an npc in SW, or Ironforge, and Orgrimmar ( I think). With this npc, we were still able to get the first ever special Murloc pet, IF we jumped through the hoops of being at the event when it was first offered up. The last time I remembered noticing this npc, I was amazed it was still offered. "How cool " I thought, that Blizzard left this npc in the game, just in case someone , someday, who earned that pet, and for whatever reason never turned in his token, could still do so.
Now THAT, was respecting your player base. Let something be that was already earned, no matter how long ago it was earned.
I wonder where all those Blizzard employees made off to?

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Glad that my effort on getting the mount will be made completely useless and i will also still pay gold for this. BFA isn’t hard to make gold on yet :slight_smile:

But variety isn’t the problem. Striders are ‘too powerful’ that’s the problem. Obviously. Duh.

And not everything has to have ‘water walking’ … the riverwallow mounts? They could just have ‘rapid swim speed’ like that bestowed by an upgraded Underlight Angler, and that’d be great. Not as powerful as striders, but there’s MANY mounts that could literally “swim faster” than regular ground/flying mounts.

And if riverwallows/marshbeasts are too ‘legacy’ to update, fine, introduce new ones. Or let flying mounts ‘glide’ over the surface of the water at running speed and leave ground mounts with the regular swimming penalty.

But again, VARIETY isn’t the problem. It’s lazy zone design and the lazy way they’re trying to compensate for it that’s the problem.

Oh, and fwiw, I already disputed your ‘everyone is using water striders all the time’ BS. Your arguments are weak.

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Off Topic: Short answer is yes.

Long answer, it’s the player who enjoys the experience… not the characters. Let the players work on Achievements / Reputations / Professions at their leisure regardless of the character they happen to be logged into at the time. Characters should have different levels and gear to earn… that is the unique experience. Everything else should be account-wide.

That is why catchup mechanics feel wrong. A player joining late should have to jump through a few hoops. However, an alt is the same player that wants a different perspective while playing… a new role or different class abilities… they have seen it before… it should be quicker and easier.

Within the last two expansions (with the never ending grinds) it has become difficult to become motivated enough to even level alts in new content. This is mainly due to the knowledge that you have no progress on new reputations… start at 0 on Artifact power… those grinds are fine if you focus on one character but it becomes tedious and not fun with multiple characters.

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With decisions like this… Ion will be known as the man who oversaw the collapse of the iconic game that is WoW!

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Any leveling before level 60, the multiple no-fly zones, and future expansions.

Mounts in generally arent needed, you are free to RP walk everywhere since this apparently doesnt concern you.

People can discuss multiple topics, shocker, I know.

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That is the future.

They want to sell this as “content” they can give out one bread crumb at a time.

It’s the very definition of a scam.

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  1. Not all characters fly. This is about a large account-wide nerf.
  2. If you’re not impacted by this, why are you here?
  3. Start a new thread for your other concerns, this is specifically for the water strider concerns that clearly a lot of people actually do have.
  4. If you’re level 10 you literally can’t use it anyway, so again, why are you here? :stuck_out_tongue:
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watching people debate this like it’s going to stop Blizzard

Indeed, but would you really do that?
It seems like it is very much needed and it seems almost like that this game won’t survive without water striders. This are the tastes i get from this thread.

popularity is winning though in discussions especially directed at blizzard.

Because our issue isn’t with other people having water walking. Our issue is with them removing an ability from a mount and putting it on equipment so that everyone with the mount will then have to buy back the mount’s functionality.

I mean, I assume you wouldn’t be okay if one day, your computer manufacturer locked your system and said, “but you can buy back access for a one-time low cost! We’re doing you a favor by giving you the discount!” In fact, I’m pretty sure nobody would be okay if the real world worked on the “we’ll break your stuff and sell you the fix for a low, low price” principle Blizz is applying to this mount.

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It is the place to vent… that’s all

Posted earlier in the thread,

please note

the character who earned the Anglers reputation along with the mount gets the water walking item for free, what would a fair price be for the alts to get it?

They want to actually know how much they can get away with scamming us… :woman_facepalming:t2:

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It is a scam and very scummy thing to do towards loyal players to your game when BFA is in a bad place right now.

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I don’t have a car in real life, but yet I’m am very successful in doing things I’m always doing. Rarely are there situations in which I think “man i need a car as soon as possible, it pisses me off” so it is literally not needed for normal living. And even removing all cars won’t harm anyone.

Thanks for your perspective, but it’s as irrelevant as mine is when it comes to car use and ownership, because I happily gave both mine up and don’t need them where I live.

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I think that’s the part people are missing.

We worked for that strider. I fished for that damn thing back in Mists. And I despise fishing with ever fiber of my being.

Now? Now my effort was taken away. Now I get a strider that’s worthless and have to pay for an ability I’ve had for three and a half expansions.

The strider needs to keep its ability and be exempt from equipment.

Although, to be honest, this equipment idea needs trashed completely. Give everyone a glyph for their class mount for water walking or make a few more mounts able to water walk. Add them as rewards in 8.2. But between class perks, barding, gliders, etc… this equipment-- that can be taken off of us next xpac-- is a terribad idea.

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Thanks. I didn’t read all of his posts. Should probably go back and do that. So yeah, screws over alts.

Before Legion, they announced that the MoP water strider would be changed to only work in Pandaria, and that the WoD water strider would be changed to only work in Draenor.

Players provided feedback that they did not support this, and Blizzard decided to not make the change afterall.

How is this discussion today any different?

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