Was WOW token good for the player base overall

it was only good for blizz and ppl that have too much money and not enough time.

basically it was bad for any real gamer :wink:

i guess it can have uses for ppl that like to grind a box price while in the game when a good game comes out. i just read a post where the OP bought his ultimate diablo4 with gold. thats pretty neat.

i am tired of this. no one is winning anything dude

I mean sure, it made a way for people to play the game for free. Other than the time it takes to farm gold or however you do that. But after a while I’m starting to wonder what the point of gold is in this game anyway. The occasional gold sink mount? Anything that matters costs a special currency. You make enough just playing the game to cover any repairs/consumables that you need plus extra.

Yes I could.

That is your fault for taking the word P2W literally rather than what it is. Obviously you dont pay money and you get the credits screen saying you won the game.

If you think paying real life money for progression or paying to skip farm time isnt a issue then at least argue a point than waste my time replying with a non comment like that

Well PVP wise enchants, you can buy 2 max ilvl epic pvp armor pieces, gems. It all costs gold
 quite a bit of gold at the moment.

Shadowlands had huge gold sinks with 2 legendaries costing like 150k for both each season. For the first couple of months my druid legendaries cost 80-100k each.

Ahh fair I had forgotten about those legendaries and stuff

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It is a good invention. Some people just don’t have the time to farm gold. I do think the weekly token cap should be lowered though.

I am not a fan of the wow token. I’ve purchased them with both gold and cash, yet never felt a desire to do this prior to their existence.

It’s there–I’d might as well hook myself up with 200k for less than an hour of rl work. But prior to their introduction, cash/gold exchange was discouraged. I thought of it as cheating.

People were buying gold long before the wow token existed, at least this way blizz doesnt have to deal with people being dumb and getting scammed by 3rd party sites as much

is there another way to take it ? go out and enjoy life, smell the grass and play some other games also . you spent too much time here

I would say absolutely not.

Keep in mind, it exists solely because they want you to be playing all of their games. Or if you are someone who does, then you get some extreme benefits from buying WoW tokens either to sell or with gold. You can buy skins in OW with WoW tokens by converting them to bnet balance. You can buy new games like D4 with the same conversion. It is done on purpose. They know the economy is terrible and that people have less and less time as the years go by but still want things out of these games including WoW.

But the effects it has on WoW overall are completely negative in basically every way. In most cases because of how awful this community is, they have created this really terrible situation where the game is essentially pay to win if you don’t have the time to deal with guilds and the terrible community. But that same community is more than happy to take advantage of you if you do not have said time. They’ll offer boosts and all that jazz just so you can gear up or get the latest FOMO garbage mount that shouldn’t be in the game in the first place and yet here we are.

Because the token exists no one has a reason to actually be helpful any and all “helpful” discord communities are not actually helpful. They don’t want to. Everything in those communities is still random and no one is really going to go out of their way to get you an arena gladiator mount for free. No one would ever be that kind in any game anyways.

The token has genuinely ruined the game though, you can’t really do anything without paying money for these things or spending an absurd and ridiculous amount of time due to the terrible community that remains.

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gold buying went up exponentially when it went on the cash shop

way beyond the 3rd party market

also led to game design decisions focused on cash shop related metrics

there was no benefit to gold on the cash shop

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This is not a debate on who made the game, we know Blizzard made the game and creates the continuing content. You in no way have made a point that reflect either side of this conversation.

I can’t find gold in the cash shop, where is it? It’s not the token as that has to be traded for player earned gold so where is this gold in the cash shop?

Is this the hill you really want to die on?

“The in-game cash shop doesn’t visibly advertise gold so that means it’s not P2W!!!”

Come on, man. You know better than that.

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Good job you didn’t answer the first question, more importantly to your credibility is you avoided the second.

See there were two questions put together for a reason, well actually one question but the second addresses the false claim that the token would be the answer.

The one issue everyone has a problem debating, where does Blizzard give you gold directly for money. Or how is Blizzard printing gold for your money. As we all know the players are paying the gold for the tokens, that is a massive hole in the P2W theory.

To top it off it’s not a guaranteed instant advantage over those that play the game normally. In fact it requires players to play the game normally to be able to offer up carries, well at least at the start. Almost like it’s a completely player run economy


Is there any other way to take it? Yes
 you cant literally win a mmorpg
 p2w doesnt mean the credits roll after you pay money. People think it mwans a ton of things but most the ability to pay for power is one of them

There is no currency mint. In all iterations gold is just some binary code. Blizzard owns the game, and everything in it. You do no own the copy of the game you play. You pay for access to that copy. You don’t own the gold. You have access to some gold. You can buy more access to gold, by selling a token, that you bought with legal currency to another player. The actual sale is obfuscated of course, because it doesn’t exist. If it did, you would be liable for taxes and need to follow the accounting rules, the same as if you bought and sold cryptocurrency.

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Yea no even if players could give you gold for money its still pay to win. Paying other players real life money for there hard earned gold and using thst gold for power is p2w imo. I know its hard for you to understand.

Money → gold = buy better gear.

It’s not hard for them to understand. They are playing dumb, because they gain from the system as it is, and they want to keep the status quo.

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