Was told 3.6K GS was too low for H+ on my ret pally

H+ is challenging in the least fun way possible imo, some of mechanics are very chore-ish and the added hp is just extra sponge but i have no idea what they’d do otherwise. The mirror images in oculus oh man, that’s the worst affix in the worst dungeon, unreal

That’s chump change.

I can go right to Ulduar now and not be completely useless.

Well hateful 2 piece at 200 ilvl is better than crafted basic epics at 200. Pvp set gets a bonus and gem slots. Offset pvp pieces are lvl 232 now for honor so its a better option than 213 valor bracers, If you want perspective on gear value then you should go check out the 225 kirin tor ring you can get from rep vendor in dal, 7.5kgold.

the 232 pvp pieces are mostly worse than the 213 pve pieces, if i switch my warriors boots from furious triumph boots (232 + socket with a 16 str gem) to sudden reprisal (213 crit/haste boots from naxx 25 + socket with 16 str gem), i gain 70 dps

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Sure, if you RMT.

Who said anything about doing Ulduar? I just wanna do dungeons on my alt.

Mirror images on a ret paladin with a 3.6 sec swing timer is certainly a different beast than on a morb dk with fast 1 handers that’s for danged sure.

How I loathe that affix.

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Wat?

The titansteel helmet is miles and ages ahead of pvp gear.

Yeah, I’m not a fan of gimmicky affixes. I’d rather damage and health values were just scaled up.

I don’t rmt and 10,000 gold is nothing…

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I’d rather we didn’t have them at all, but if we must at least make them interesting.

2 mirrors per mob you pull isn’t interesting. Boss healing to 100% in 1 melee hit isn’t interesting, especially when it happens cause an add spawned the blood pool beneath a boss that can’t even move but gains health from casting spells (novos adds with the pool is broken beyond belief if you get unlucky).

You do GDKPs, which are a den of RMT. Where do you think all that gold came from in the first place?

Idk I don’t have gold logs for everyone in the game.

If my gold is tainted than logic dictates your gold is also tainted.

Why not get the 232 crafted boots? Thats actually meant as catch up gear???

By that logic, using money in rl supports communism, child/forced labor, just think before your privileged fingers swipe the screen on your brand new iphone, tiny childrens fingers in a chinese sweatshop put it together.

I mean the same bots who farm gold farm and make raid consumables.

It isn’t my job to check where gold comes from just like it isn’t your job to check where your raid consumables are from.

Exactly, its called a chain of responsibility. Op thinks its others responsibility to gear them yet absolves themselves of their own resposibilities to be adequately prepared. They just keep running circular arguments based on opinion and feelings rather than aknowledge facts, statistics and progression mechanics. H+ is not a cstchup meant to parallel naxx gear but rather to keep dungeon difficulty relevent to naxx geared players looking to fill in gear gaps.

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Wrong. H+ drops 200-213 gear. Naxx drops 213-226. H+ is absolutely a catch up system.

You do realize all these examples your giving can be aquired with gold and no real effort, not sure how this supports your argument of no path to get gear. How about shoulder options??? How about wands???

And? I was responding to your point that 2 hateful > ilvl 200 crafts which is nonsense.

I wouldn’t take you either.