Much of the Horde followed Garrosh for the entirety of the war.
It was only after he tried to assassinate the Horde leaders and was pushed into grabbing the Sha’s power that the Horde FINALLY moved against him.
Same issue with Sylvanas where the Horde leaders after Teldrassil followed her and fought the Alliance instead of turning her over.
Even then only a FEW of the Horde actually joined the rebels which only happened when she decided to kill Baine and Thrall.
So what you say here is wrong as per the established facts above.
The Horde, the majority anyway, have ZERO moral conscious unless it concerns themselves in someway and are completely complicit in their Warchief’s actions where it concerns the Alliance.
They were given the opportunity to be arrested and investigated until they decided to fight to the death.
They deserved whatever happened to them. They betrayed the trust afforded to them and got its consequence.
There is a running theme with the Horde doing whatever they want and expect there to be no repercussion and honestly how the story is developing I can’t say I blame them.
Yeah, as far as we know, only one Sunreaver was actually involved with the Divine Bell theft. And that Aethas was blackmailed after the fact (though the exact canon of that scene is weird).
Right. That makes them complicit in most of the war. But not in the leader assassination and the Sha powerup.
Likewise, anyone who didn’t leave/rebel against Sylvanas after she burned Teldrassil is complicit in the burning of Teldrassil. Saurfang for example, is complicit in the War of Thorns, because he approved of it, but isn’t complicit in Teldrassil because he didn’t support it, and basically checked out of the Horde right afterwards. He’s also not complicit in anything the Horde did in BFA after he rebelled.
Anything you’re still on board for before that leader finally makes you throw your hands up and quit, you’re complicit in.
He only did that when he saw Sylvanas turn his soldiers into undead minions and planned to blow up the city later.
He got captured alright but only because Andiun spared his life and even then he never warned the Alliance about the trap.
He was entirely complicit in Sylvanas’s plans along with every other Horde character. The only one that has his hands clean all this is Thrall but he is a problem unto himself with his cowardice and inaction.
That’s…not true. The scene where he was just planning to walk out to face the Alliance alone without his armor(presumably, to just be swiftly killed in battle) happens BEFORE the battle.
He’s already checked out of the Horde at that point, and only sticks around for the battle because Zekhan talks him into it. And then still gives up after the battle anyway, once there are no more impressionable Horde youths around.
Y’know… You really can’t blame people who main Alliance for thinking that way. While we’re forced into being genocidal maniacs, they’re forced into being our victims. Two expansions out of eight have started off with the Horde removing a major city. By contast, the only time they even participate in taking one of ours out, the thunder’s stolen from them in the last moment by the warchief blowing it up herself. And both times, after we’ve spent an expac being treated as “heroic war criminals”, only to be allowed to actually rebel in the finale, they don’t even get decisive victories; both times the warchief is overthrown, it’s with Horde help and one time, it was caused solely by a Horde hero.
It only makes sense they’d want to have something they could hold on to as a victory. Dazar’alor is the closest they got to a playable victory scenario, where they killed the king. A king, mind you, that the Horde player already knew would die after his deal with Bwonsamdi. And even then, almost immediately after decapitating the Zandalari leadership, it has a brand new leader in Talanji.
But they took out our fleet, I bet you’re thinking. Load of good that does when the very next patch takes out the Alliance fleet because a hole in the ocean swallows them up. So even the minor victory of taking out boats? Mitigated when they lose their own because Sylvanas allied with Azshara behind the scenes.
A few weeks back, I never got why some Alliance players were so… Antagonistic, fanatical, frustratingly single-minded about how the playable Horde should suffer for what the devs’ love for JofferySylvanas forced on all of us. But lately, thinking about things from their side, I get it.
No you dont its not black and white, nobody is saying you fight the horde with love and compassion. You really dont understand what genn means when you keep the peace by preparing for war dont you.