This has been hunters for their entire existence. Almost always they’re ok at low rating and then fall off a cliff to the worst class at high ratings. This is one of the few exceptions this season and people acting like it’s the end of the world when you probably still won’t even see jungle in awc.
Has the least good comps unless they’re overtuned. At least warrior has lots of easy and good comps
they either need to remove the negative pvp modifiers, give arms some type of ramping damage that isn’t RNG, or yes, make avatar and CS actually do meaningful damage. Too much rng for Arms to do good damage (this also goes back to S1 DF when all modifiers active + crit stars aligning could 2 shot people = nerfs), all it is currently is a bleed ms mediocre sustained bot, unless you hit the lotto and get 3 big crits in a row with cds popped.
This all stems from the pvp crit nerfs affecting arms as a crit reliant spec… talents got smacked with pvp modifiers, and crit nerfs affecting the whole Arms identity, hasn’t felt the same since early S1 DF.
Fury is a meme.
LOL nice bait.
At least warrior has lots of easy and good comps
~https ://pvpq.net/us/meta?bracket=3v3&period=last_week&role=dps
Nobody is queueing or looking to play warrior comps.
Breath, I am curious on your thoughts on how they can fix this. I feel like this happens repeatedly due to warriors “primitive” design in a sense. It’s either warrior is grossly overtuned damage wise and overshadows other melee, or it does equal (or lesser) damage than all others and there’s little reason to bring one
I feel like first and foremost they need to remove and reduce MS effects for all non-warrior specs. WW, Rogue, DH, feral should have no MS or an incredibly weak one. For example if WW/DH MS was removed, you then can decide, as a dk, if you want to play WWDK or hero cleave, or play TSG w/ a 25% MS. This is just one example but can apply to Boomy/DH, etc.
somewhere in between current sustain and sl burst meta would be perfect imo
they could probably make mortal strike do a lot of damage, give it sturdy defense, and solid utility
To be fair alot of us, including myself, made that mistake. Burst/cd trading meta is just better for the game now.
Hunters are insane right now.
literally all they would have to do to shift the meta is revert some of the DF crit pvp nerf
Probably more then that tbh.
completely reverting it would probably be too much, but maybe not
I feel like it’s generally a class that’s strongest at lower MMR.
now, yes. But that should not be the warrior identity, thats wack
Warrior identity is being too easily played around by having unthreatening damage. 
At least our mogs are sick.
since they wanted to shift arms to a bleed meta, ya it hasnt been threatening since early s1 df…
too many pvp modifier hits coupled with the crit nerf, its going to take those being reverted or a entire rework for arms to be great again
They’ve been having trouble finding the sweet spot between being a glorified hunter pet that applies bleeds and healing reduction and ret rework dmg profile where you 100-0 somebody every bolt.
theres so many things they could change that would bring it to good levels again, they’ve been mentioned hundreds of times.
spear not being able to be escaped except being trinketed would be a start (or even 45s cd in its current state), MS stacking dmg pvp modifier nerfs, warlords torment being terrible for arms, crit nerfs, fatality marks nerf, sharpen nerf, any of these could be changed and it would be significant, its just too many negative modifiers, nothing in Arms tree feels good atm.
Sharpen blade and storm of destruction should be baseline so arms doesn’t need to sacrifice utility for kill pressure.
Delete rend and make slam do damage like it did in MOP.
make spear a 1 minute cd.
delete thundy roar and replace with necro banner(that only works on urself)
Make stormbolt 4 seconds again but delete shockwave.
Yeah, I was hoping they’d go back to pvp tier for something like this. 2pc giving mandatory pickups or stuff that people normally can’t grab, like sharpen blade or dark sim.
Imo, slam should apply rend like trauma bleed.
Having slam v rend v tclap as a filler for such little damage is a little horrendous.
War hasnt felt strong since fury has received its 2 rounds of nerfs. I am not really sure why it even got nerfed twice like this, it really only needed the first round of nerfs but minus the bladestorm nerf that applied to arms for some reason from pve i believe.
Wars definitely feel squishy imo far too much for a plate wearing class and they also do pretty regular damage now. Def needs a little help
that actually sounds insane, it might be needed but i feel like it would be way too OP to have that much passive DR. Ignore pain needs extremely buffed or changed as well.