I’m not a TBC theorycrafter by any stretch, but ret seems to offer enough group/raid buffs to offset their personal DPS. Same reason you’ll bring a shadow priest.
Of course you wouldn’t want to stack them, but having one in the raid seems like a good call. 3% crit raidwide, 15% reduced attributes on enemy, option of buffing your prot pally with sanctity aura, and granting your party 2% extra damage with improved sanctity. You also get extra blessings, and hassle free refreshing of judgments. Seems really good.
What’s a rogue offer? Personal DPS and kicks.
If I was dead set on not having a ret I wouldn’t replace him with a rogue. I’d probably want a DPS warrior in there for increased physical damage and a second shout in the tank/melee group.
Idk, seems shortsighted to compare a ret’s personal DPS against a rogue and say they suck in comparison.
TBC raids are no where near difficult enough to prevent a raid from bringing a fury warrior. It may not be optimal for a min/max speed running guild, but for the average raid team I think bringing dedicated players will continue to be more important than players who play the absolute “meta” class and spec.
TBC is a lot like classic; quite a few people think it’s harder than it really is and it turns out people are much better at the game than during original TBC. Is it a step up in difficulty, sure. Does it require the “perfect” raid composition, definitely not.
Play what you want and contribute to a guild and you should have a good shot at glaives. Alternatively, roll a Prot Paladin and farm gold relentlessly. Then when BT launches you can just buy glaives in a GDKP. I can assure you there will be GDKP’s where glaives go to the highest bidder.
Yeah there will be far fewer raid spots available for fury warriors. They will still be brought by many guilds, but definitely not stacked. Fortunately I play Warrior AND WARLOCK
I feel like Fury Warriors are kind of the Ret Pallies of TBC. You don’t really need them, but they can do okay. If they want gear they need to be charismatic and probably contribute to a guild in other ways – or they can just get geared in GDKP’s.
To a point yes, but they’ll follow it. The issue is they’re melee - which means in some TBC encounters much lower uptime. There’s better DPS to bring, too. Warlocks also don’t hit their ridiculous point until late T5/T6 - Hunters instead do higher DPS. Why bring a Warrior when you can bring someone who has actual utility, is the question.
The thing in Classic is that nearly every raid stacked Warriors - and Mages - and even Rogues. But all three are massively less desired in TBC as other classes overtake them.
More accurately, I think people share the “sweat sentiments.” The competitive nature of gamers in general – especially among young adult males, which make up the majority of the WoW population – drives people towards the meta more than I think you give credit for, and the meta is driven largely by data.
I do agree there’s a great deal of people repeating information they don’t actually understand and consequently often misrepresent, though.
Mkay. Watched a bunch of Endless videos and the mages are as expected slightly ahead of the hybrids and waaaay behind hunters/locks. Like, hundreds of thousands behind in damage–per boss. You don’t bring three of that. You bring one. And Brutallus did have just over 10 million health in TBC, same as the videos. “Buffed boss health” lol. Did you even play in TBC?
Ofc i played in TBC, Im not as smart as you i guess that i can recall boss health from actual wow TBC rofl.
Endless admits they buff damage and health, infact most private servers did…this isnt new.
You can cherry pick the fights all you want, obviously all classes have bad fights, you can search youtube for all the fights and mages are typically top 3, on a server that buffs bosses.
I dont want to take away from your reroll, obviously you got your lock and hunter made already rofl.
