Warrior Glaives TBC?

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 6:34am

You darn well better outparse the ret paladin I will be playing.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:34am

You obviously dont know what parsing means.

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 6:35am

I see what you did there. But hey enjoy that 2.4 patch bro.

Ironchain-herod · February 10, 2021, 6:41am

You do realize parses are only comparing your performance compared to others of the same spec, yeah?

Mages and Paladins will never compete on parses. You’re thinking of DPS.

Daykiller-incendius · February 10, 2021, 6:43am

A very good ret parse compared to a very bad mage parse is still something you can look at subjectively to see how good/bad someone can be.

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 6:44am

I’ve never played ret paladin. But I do know that I don’t need a shadow priest in my group to not get benched. Can anyone confirm that for mages?

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:45am

They are boring.

Mobikon-atiesh · February 10, 2021, 6:46am

Or fun. YMMV

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:46am

I guess if auto attacking is your thing.

Mobikon-atiesh · February 10, 2021, 6:49am

To be fair, that’s 50% what Fury Warriors do as well.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:51am

I guess they can crusader strike every 6 seconds i think?

Ironchain-herod · February 10, 2021, 6:52am

Sure, but the argument was about damage dealt, not parses.

An 80th percentile Mage can out DPS a 99th percentile Ret, for example.

Yes, actually, because you need a Mage.

If mana issues are a problem, the mage can use a 3:3 AB:FB rotation, or just spec Fire.

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 6:54am

Just saying mana issues are real. That’s giving up a lot of damage for that rotation. And fire gets a 10% fireball coefficient nerf by Sunwell. You guys should be looking at this ahead of time. Know what you got going in.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:56am

Arcane will be fine, as im betting on the fights being shorter.

Ironchain-herod · February 10, 2021, 6:58am

All true, and all still fail to refute the fact that the Mage’s raid spot is secure solely because you need at least one Mage.

I’d wager even a 3:3 rotation for Arcane is more DPS than Ret.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 6:59am

It will be, the arcane raiding spec gets double icy veins.

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 7:02am

First, yeah you can bring one. This all started because someone suggested bringing three mages. To Sunwell. Unless it’s Felmyst progression and the locks can’t stay behind on air phase even with soulshatter, then an extra mage who can invis and keep pumping might be helpful. And second, the ret paladin is giving a 30k raid DPS group 600-900 DPS from 3% crit and another 400 or so from imp sanc aura and JoW. So that paladin doesn’t have to do all that much damage to keep up.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 7:02am

No, this all started by you calling mages “trash”.

Delmok-mankrik · February 10, 2021, 7:04am

Ok, well prove me wrong. Beat your guild’s locks and hunters. Even Manly from EJ getting fed PIs and rotating mana tide couldn’t do it.

Drinknblink-whitemane · February 10, 2021, 7:04am

So your argument is that if you arent a destro lock or bm hunter youre trash?

rofl