WARNING! No way to get your old UI back

true, the work on the UI is good, leaves some to be desired in optional art styles for various elements, and some features that I feel could be baseline. It put ELVUI on the bench for now though, which is a pretty nice change.

I am about to have to pick up Leatrix+ though for auto vendoring.

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Indeed, Iā€™ve wanted it to be moveable, but I never wanted the look to change. There is no reason there couldnā€™t have been a toggable option to keep using the old UI in terms of look. They could have added a toggle and call it ā€œretroā€, or ā€œclassicā€ and for that toggle use the art style of the old player frame, target frame, mini map etc.

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So do I, and the new UI makes it far more difficult to have the modded UI Iā€™ve spent the last decade happily using.

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How do you move the XP and Rep bars, and how can you make the icons below bags and around minimap bigger?

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You canā€™t.

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Yes, when you go into edit mode (i think thatā€™s what they call it) youā€™ll see a bunch of boxes, most are unchecked by that stance bar seems to just default to checked (IDK why yet).

Anyway among the boxes there is one called
"cast barā€™ that you may have inadvertently selected.

I hope this helps. I will be monitoring this thread if you need any more help or have questions (Iā€™m just figuring out stuff myself).

Ok, so now everybody loved the classic UI and didnā€™t use addons to change it :rofl:

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no, i have cast bar uncheckedā€¦ unchecking the boxes in ā€œedit modeā€ only removes your ability to see them while u are editingā€¦ they are still there.

the cast bar is still there, even though i have it uncheckedā€¦ the talking heads box is still active even though i have it uncheckedā€¦

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Whatā€™s so awful about it?

Iā€™ve spent over 20 hours on beta just fiddling with the UI

Thatā€™s actually the problem.

Most people donā€™t want to spend hours fiddling with their UI to get it right. I get why Blizz did this, and itā€™s not horrible how it was done from a configurability perspective.

The problem is that the default is a stark contrast to what people are used to which abandons the form elements of the old UI. This is particularly true for the more ā€œmodernā€ UI elements which no longer have a medieval, classic style to them but rather ape the sheeny-shiny elements in many add-ons, which is not the style that people are used to.

If youā€™re one who downloaded a UI mod before this, then this change may or may not be goodā€¦ but people who do that assume that everyone does that because people who played with the de facto UI (probably most people) were quiet about it because they were not passionate about something that they mostly wanted to have limited engagement with (until it was taken away and they were inconvenienced).

Now they HAVE to spend time dealing with it, and with the giant map, and the eyesore small fonts, and the miniscule XP bar and bag buttons, and the menu buttons that you need a magnifying glass to seeā€¦ not to mention the clock with 5px font characters. Oh yeah, and not all of the elements stay in the same place and end up obscuring buttons during play, which is actually a huge problem for some classes. Oh and you can set your bars to the same size and lock them but for some reason Iā€™ve noticed they often end up just barely offset or misaligned, or a slightly different size, which is sometimes visually jarring.

Personally? Iā€™ll get used to it, and Iā€™m crafty with this stuff so Iā€™ll get it sorted outā€¦ but others simply donā€™t want to have to deal with resetting their UI frequently to get the experience they previously had while never getting that back. I get why theyā€™re upset about thatā€¦ it is not a perfect UI change, and it does not cater to people who did not want to have to mess with it, and itā€™s OK they feel that way.

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ok so in options there are a series of action bars (up to 8)

so its under gameplay
action bars > action bars 1-8

Not everybody, but I did. I just wish there were 2 options, leave the same for a lot of people like myself just by checking one box. To the people that wanted this, you deserve what you want. Iā€™m happy for you.

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this lets me hide the cast bar?

what does the Classic preset do besides move the Player Frame?

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Youā€™re going to have to try it. As I said Iā€™m figuring it out, but if you have more bars checked than you WANT then it is likely the reason is that there is a bar checked.

Like I said, the BOX for the stance bar (in options) for me keeps DEFAULTING to being checked, even though I NEVER CHECK IT. So even though you never check it it is probably doing the same thing and it comes back because when you saved your setting you had left it up for whatever reason (prob cause youā€™re learning, like me and everyone else) so UNCHECK THAT BOX and now that youā€™ve changed something the ā€œsaveā€ (changes) button will go from grey to red. Now save the new setting (with no stance bar box checked; unchecked).

Iā€™m going to stick around until you get it so let me know.

However do need a cig so give me 5 mins

I use a fair number of addons, but theyā€™re simple ones that require little setup. Too many addons say they are ā€œfully customizableā€ but give you no instructions how to set up the features theyā€™re so proud of.

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Yep, this change adds complexity to something that used to be simple, and thatā€™s an issue.

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Awful? Not so much, just saying

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Wow some of you fear change more than my old freaking dog.

Itā€™s actually painful that you can get this out of sorts over an improvement to the game that you canā€™t figure out for yourselves.

Youā€™ll all be just fine in lfr next patch, and have plenty of time to fix your bars.

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Disliking change is not the same as fearing change.

Eh, not really ā€œout of sortsā€, more expressing and giving feedback about not liking the looks of the new UI. Iā€™ve mostly seen constructive feedback, ie saying stuff like ā€œthis is the part we donā€™t like, this is how it could be improvedā€.

Whatā€™s interesting to me is how me, and others asking for the OPTION of having a toggle for the old UI seems to really make some of you out of sorts to the point that you need to come with attacks and insults. Donā€™t worry, from what Iā€™ve seen those that are like me and just donā€™t like the new look we are not coming with pitch forks asking for the new UI to be removed, nor are we asking for addons to be removed. We are just asking for the option to be able to use the old style.

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How do you make the chat text and icons under the bags and around the minimap bigger, and how do you move the XP and Rep bar?

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