Heyo, any thoughts on this never to be implemented and wholly insufficient change to destro?
Current:
Focused Chaos
Chaos Bolt damage is increased by 65%, but no longer strikes additional targets afflicted by Havoc.
New:
Focused Chaos
Chaos Bolt no longer strikes additional targets afflicted by Havoc, but deals 65% additional damage to targets afflicted by Havoc.
Post your thoughts and try to be nice little forum gremlins! 
There are bigger problems than Focused Chaos atm, but I’ll take this instead of leaving it unchecked.
I would agree. This was not an effort to fix destro, more of and idea that I thought would be a more interesting way to create that specific talent.
Crazy warlock idea, gut them out of arena.
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Warlocks don’t need nerfs. Buff everyone up to warlock level.
Warlocks need a buff, I mean look at demonology. When was the last time that you saw one in Arena? For me I saw some when Uldir was on its 3rd week.
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There’s several demo locks around. Demos not bad, just why would you play it when you could play Destro for more damage with less brain cells?
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Conflag root should require immolate de buff on the target.
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Not the worst idea OP, it woukd give destro 10 seconds of bolt dmg which they haveto use wisely.
Im not against it. Bolts outside of that tho woukd hit for 40k lol
good they can feel like every other class
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Umm rogues alone do 80k+ envenoms and those are instant
if i double overpower and sharpen a mortal strike it hits for like 60k and i can only double overpower if i get a reset proc. locks can spam 150-350k bolts with a .7 sec cast. bolt should do half the damage it does
Your numbers are innacurate and poorly used for an argument.
Would be a terrible change due to the range on mortal coil. You 9/10 times are tossing havoc on the target that’s max range to ensure you can hit it with coil and slap both targets. At least in 2s that is. So if you have to havoc the nearby target you have to run at the other target to get the double coil, which ain’t happening because that target is gonna’ be a healer sitting on a pillar that will just walk around it. Furthermore this would be rendered completely useless vs rsham and rdruid or any mage comp.
Focused Chaos is a bad talent only because it is mandatory in all forms of PVP content, except for TM vs SS but that’s a brawl so who cares. If anything it should just be baked into destro or they should raise bolt damage by like 35-40% and remove the talent.
Only insufficient because they’ve completely made destro a 1 trick pony. If we had other damage sources (not just routing some of the damage from CB to other spells) then this wouldn’t be as big of an issue. As it stands right now though every build for destro plays the exact same. Throw up immolate, don’t sit on conflag caps, use bolts.
In SL we look like we may have other avenues for dealing damage with hard cast and instant cast abilities outside of chaos bolt. Soul fire continues to be buffed which looks nice. Would like to see the CD of it dropped to be the same with havoc though so it functions as this sort of bursty two target fire build spell. TBH not even sure if it needs a CD given it is a 4 second cast. IDK how the scaling on it appears, but it doesn’t look like it hits as hard as gpy so I’m not sure why it needs a full minute CD.
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In general %age scaling increases just feel oppressive as the expansion goes on since the base values of stats on gear get so high. No one would care if chaosbolt was a 2.5 second cast and fear was 1.5seconds. But when fear is 0.5 and chaosbolts are also 0.5 seconds with good procs, it’s downright absurd.
In general I think destro needs nerfs not just because it’s the highest represented class and probably the most broken spec in the history of wow, but because it’s perpetually unfun to play against with its bananas tankiness and literally every DR of CC. And when you actually are able to play the game you have to run 30% of the time because if you try to trade CDs you lose the game.
Never gonna happen because PvE exists.
They could just scale chaos bolt independently in PVP.