You’re right about that.
That’s a long investment tho to be terrible dps and no utility all the way till BT.
Kudos to you.
To be fair, I think TBC will be a lot like classic. There’s really no need to min max to any great extent unless you’re trying to chase rankings. I’ll have no problem bringing a rogue or two to raids and giving them glaives.
I MT’ed a TBC guild into Sunwell. I keyboard turned and literally just mashed devastate, shield block, and revenge. The rest of the guild was just as terrible. We had two rogues, 1 warlock, and 3 mages. We cleared all content fairly easily and only really had to work for our Kael’Thas kill, and our first moroes kill lol.
I’m really looking forward to TBC, and I think the PVE content is a real step above what we have now. However, those raids are going to take a real beating with today’s playerbase.
how complicated is the quest chain to unlock black temple?
Not only did you necro this thread, but you asked a question that isn’t even relevant to it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
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dont worry you will never get a chance to AoE grind unless they have like 5-6 layers.
Use your rogue to do your dailies and a Paladin with engineering to do your mote farming and boosting. People will still need boost for their blood elves.
I played BC through wrath.
My experience was a mining/jewelcrafting Rogue. Stealthing through caves in nagrand to mine adamantine and khorium, making low level blue rings with random enchants (hoping for eagles or monkeys!).
I also maxed fishing, and made bookoos of gold fishing lava for motes of fire.
Just my experience and what I did. I also had a warlock, felguard spec I raided with, and a disc priest for arena/BGs.
Moral of my story, do what you want, whats fun for you!
its tangentially related, inspired by a discussion in the thread. happen to know the answer? like do you have to do the whole quest chain from the warden’s cage to unlock black temple?
Complicated? I wouldn’t say that, questing through shadowmoon valley and doing all the quests will make sure to get you the breadcrumb quests.
It is long, very long, and full of annoying bits
Yes, you need to have the necklace that ports you to BT that acts as your attunement item [Medallion of Karabor]
wow that is such a long chain. i did it recently on retail and was surprised how many steps there were, and they were all over the place too. several zones. some not so easy fights. akama’s quests, were the longest chains/most spread out. theres an easy elemental farm in black temple, as long as none of the bosses are dead, you can reset it, i do believe. might be different during tbc
This is false. They are top dps in pve, maybe slightly behind hunters.
Luckily you’ll end up doing half of it while questing and you’ll just have the dungeon/raid parts and do it alongside the SSC/TK attunement as well.
I know this is about Warlocks but I have a semi related question since I’m talking about people in tight robes throwing fire with their hands.
How are Mages in TBC PvE? I know Hunters and Warlocks are top dog (and my main will be a Hunter, I’m very excite), but what about Mages? From what I gather they’re pretty good but behind these two, and they start off Fire and maybe swap to Arcane when they have the gear to support it.
For an alt, I can’t decide between Troll Mage and Orc Warlock. I imagine Warlocks will be everywhere, but then in the current era of Classic, Mages are already everywhere.
My memory of it was that mages had two fights to tank: ogre council and illidari council. So they had an actual cool job to do there.
I remember they did good damage but they weren’t the top. There was a joke that they’d be forced to wait outside the instance and pass out food and water, but that they couldn’t go in. I’ve heard that arcane gets very good later on, but I don’t have any personal recollection of this.
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They’re fine, you won’t stack them for fights or anything but you definitely want at least 1-2 mages and damage wise you’ll be just under or neck and neck with warlocks and hunters if you’re all equal skill and gear wise. Lots of utility, good damage, always wanted for dungeons
I recommend checking out legacyplayers rankings to get a good look at what damage meters are going to look like
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legacyplayers ranking has hunter as second best overall dps. warlock is #1. but 4 out of 5 raids, hunter is best. mage comes after hunters and locks. oddly, druids are best overall hps, followed by or equalled by, holy paladins and holy priests, and then comes resto shaman. i thought it was resto shaman then resto druids, then holy priest, then holy paladin. but 4 out of 5 raids, holy paladin is #1 followed by resto druids and holy priests. really confusing. i’m guessing it varies because its stats from their own raids
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I think with classic tbc arcane mage has a high chance of being #1.
Fight length will be much lower than the private servers that usually buffs boss health but 3x as much.
Once arcane gets 2 pc t5, its over.
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yea but they gotta be babied pretty hard to do good dmg, rotate into mana tide grps, innervate, etc
warlock is easier to manage, but i guess we’ll see how blizz’s TBC looks like vs the pservers and see if people think its worth the effort to max out an arcane mage
(2) Set: Increases the damage and mana cost of Arcane Blast by 5%. ?
wheee. i have a lil arcane mage in classic
doesnt each group have a mana shammie? i can see innervate being a case of babysitting but i thought mana shammies were gonna be at least 4-5 per raid.