Do you see deadmines and stockades and sm full of newly leveling mages? yes.
Does this mean all of those toons are bots? No. 100% no. remember millions of people are stuck at home with little to do. Mage is the easiest class to farm gold on.
What is the most logical thing to do to make uber gold if you have a lvl 60 warrior or pally or priest toon? Level a 60 mage to sell boost runs or farm zf graves or find another lucrative farm. How do i accomplish this quickly? I pay an already lvl 60 mage to boost me through instances. Does this make me a bot? no this makes me lazy and I am actively playing the game in a way that ToS allows…
Why are people assuming that all the new alt characters HAVE to be bots? can’t “normal” players have up to 10 toons per account? isnt it possible that the majority of Classic population has finally reached lvl 60 and this quarantine time presents a perfect opportunity for thousands of players to lvl a 2nd character?
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Ive heard some speculate that a fair number of bots are now out there but not all or everyone is botting.
I personally have a lvl 60 mage that, outside of raiding, I solely use to profit off this new wave of alts since I finished my PVP ranking grind. Idk about other servers but the majority of toons I have carried could easily be identified as an alt of a lvl 60 toon. Are there randos? sure does that make them a bot? nah.
These people have to manually seek out my advertisement for a boost, haev to verbally agree to my group rules and loot rules etc ( I take blues and epics), these people have to be able to speak the language I speak because I have to communicate with them on at least a basic level…i.e “stay in the tunnel until i tell you its safe”
I just think there is a vocal percentage of the communtiy painting these new levelers with a broad brush and they really are only seeing the data from a “/who westfall” and assume because there are soo many of “x” class then they are ALL bots and it coundnt possibly be a mob mentality to lvl new toons during a time of lock down…
Ive only seen bots in 60 bgs personally.
definitely bots in BGs that happens. But even then its not 100% bots the way you imagine it to be.
Prime example. On rattlegore there is a notorius hunter who pvp bracket breaks. Hes been breaking brackets for months now. At first he botted and we were able to get him some ninja DHKs. After his 2nd ban, yes 2, he finally wised up and dropped the botting program in favor of just regular old afk soaking in a bg. Now you can find him in a bush, in AB, but he will 100% respond to whispers. He is 100% present. (hes looking at two screens most likely watching netflix w/e) but he is 100% not botting by the definition.
Its these type of activities that enter a grey area in terms of “botting” or “afking” and I think alot of people are getting upset when they see a player who doesnt verbally respond to them but that doesnt mean that player isnt “playing” the game. There are follow functions in the game, there are AFK functions, and DND functions.
Please remember not everyone plays the exact same way you do. Thats half of what makes this such a vibrant and enjoyable community to be a part of
The reason people are talking about an excessive number of bots is because on any of the larger servers, you can use /who to look at characters in certain instances (like Scholomance or BRD) and see that some instances are full of hundreds of unguilded mages at all kinds of odd hours of the day and night.
Something’s fishy.
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You’ve done a whopping zero research into whether or not there are bots out there. You’re being a complete shill.
Go to Netherwind and run around for a bit you’ll be shocked.
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Tin,
Does your guild accept all of your alts? I know mine does not otherwise there would be two full accounts of alts from just me. I have guildies with at least two and upwards of four accounts (this one guy is a nutcase). We would easily start to approach stupid numbers of low lvl alts in our guild so as such I dont typically ad my alts to my guild unless its an important one.
So yeh im sure there are plenty of low lvl unguilded mages in deadmines being carried. does that mean 100% they are bots? no thats not enough evidence.
okay but they dont all respond to whispers…does that make them a bot? no thats still not enough evidence. People are just assuming that more names = bots.
Do a higher population mean more bots overall? probably. Does it mean a larger percentage of bots on that server? most likely not.
What research you want me to do that you havent done? You want me to do a /who westfall or arathai? then should I whisper any suspicious names and if they dont respond that player is definitely a bot?
Okay so you want me to start a toon on netherwind and Ill be shocked when i see what? mages in westfall killing boars, multiboxers running around completing quests? full groups of mages in deadmines with a 60 carrying them or a full multiboxer group trying to solo deadmines?
At what point do you consider multiboxing to be botting? at what point fd oyou consider a player who doesnt want to respond botting? at what point do you consider someone who speaks a differnet language to be botting?
Or do you just assume anyone who doesnt play the game the same way as you is a bot?
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I had wondered about that. And tell tale names that all share a slight difference among them.
Also, I’ve see a lot of what looks like leveling bots in starter zones with a trail of followers. Not certain though.
Oh so this is your explanation for the fact that 4am the population of BRD and Scholo is 90% unguilded mages with names that look like they came from the random generator?
Are you serious? That’s a stupid explanation.
Enough evidence for what? Is this a courthouse where we’re deciding whether or not to throw someone in prison? No. This is a forum where we’re talking about whether or not there’s a problem with bots.
Most likely explanation: bot infestation.
There are a few bots out in the open too, but those ones are extremely obvious since you can interact with them. The smart play is to hide your activity in dungeons where players can’t see your characters acting like bots.
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Like I said in my other thread there are multiple mages doing this. It’s not a small number but it’s all day and all night the same movements.
https://streamable.com/7iy0rc
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Thats typically referred to as multiboxing.
Botting is when you write a script to play the game for you. There is nothing against having low lvl alts /follow
Also nothing wrong with naming your toons something similar.
For example, We have a guy with four accounts. He wanted to make summoning warlocks for all of the world bosses. So he took one lvl 60 on one account and made 3 warlocks /follow him on his other accounts to quickly lvl his toons. The toons are all simialr names like “ferelassummoner” “ashenvalesummoner” “hinterlandssummoner” - that doesnt make him or any of those accounts a “bot” it means hes just working a little smarter and has a little more spending cash IRL than you do.
You clearly didn’t even watch the video. This isn’t multi-boxing. These are separate individual toons running around on the same script. You are dodging very hard right now.
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I watched your video. Looked like a multiboxer to me…otherwise thats a really bad bot script because you have one bot attacking another bots tagged mob? Or are you suggesting that this one botter with a guild grouped with the other botter with the random name? Your evidence doesnt add up to bot
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And that is how I know you’re a troll and have zero idea what you’re talking about. Because that is not multi-boxing at all.
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Show me a bot that is written to attack and already tagged mob and I’ll show you a really bad coder
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Dude… you have to be trolling. That’s a very obvious script.
Same exact sequence of movements each time they engage. Backing up the exact same number of times and the same distance each time.
That’s not multiboxing either. It’s multiple independent characters with unrelated names, some guilded some not. They’re not synchronized. They’re not /following each other. They’re running similar scripts.
Please watch the video.
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All of the ones I’ve seen do this.
Wait till they start casting, tag their mob, and they’ll keep attacking the mob even if it isn’t on them.
I watched the video. I watched one mage start casting and.5 seconds later the second starts casting on the same mob. Thats how legal multiboxing is supposed to look. YOu arent supposed to be able to achieve multipel actions with one input button. This one guy watching netflix knowing that you aprroach the mob from as far away as possible, cast ur fireball on mage 1, cast on mage 2, go loot.
Like I said, I had my suspicions. Doesn’t mean I was right. I’ve seen lots of unguilded 60s in dungeons and whatnot. Probably mules, etc.