soo no longer f tier? interesting
NEWS FLASH: Every class needs group support in group PvP.
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false most classes can 1v1 competitively except warriors
Wasnt there a pvp tournament on hardcore where warriors literally only lost to the 2 actual 1v1 gods: lock and spriest and without full bis items? Thats still in the upper echelon without fully geared. And how the hell did this all turn into pick me warrior stuff again LOL the og post is about how int and spirit give almost 0 dps, not saying you specifically started the sub topic but its funny
Warrior can 1v1 competitively as well, against classes that it counters, you can’t claim to be bad at 1v1 because other classes counter you, that’s how WoW 1v1 works. Mages dumpster warriors, then get dumpstered by ferals, feral dumpsters mage but gets squished by lock. Have you ever heard of the concept of rock paper scissors? Didn’t think so.
You keep going on about PvP but the way you describe it if warrior isn’t an absolute PvP god that beats every single class 1v1 with no problem then they are garbage. You are either a troll or stupid.
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Can you just… not?
its because people whine about our strengths WHEN WE ARE SUPPORTED BY GROUP BUFFS/HEALS as if thats how we always are and ask for nerfs. We are strong in PvE group content because we have support, we are strong in PvP group content when we have support. We are dogwater on our own to compensate for this fact. learn this and use your brain
In order to make it work you will need to be OK with undergeared spell casters doing much less damage (less than live, slower to level, less enjoyable) because all spells will need to be tuned down on their base numbers to compensate.
That’s about the experience of Warriors and rogues now.
(And Shamans/Druids to a lesser extent)
So that sounds like it would level out the experience.
TBH I think it would be fine to just add a AI and Fort rune granting SP on int and spirit respectively on a slot that ends up being buffs. Warrior/Rogue have already started to break out with how good BFD gear is compared to what you get levelling in classic. People are hitting 600+ auto crits/ 800+ deep wounds/ 1k+ executes
lol you are telling me what I literally &@$?ing said. All classes need group support in group PvP. All classes have counters in 1v1. Just because you aren’t an unbeatable god doesn’t make you garbage in PvP. I play warrior, I have always played warrior in PvP since the original TBC. I know what it’s like at low level and at high level, they need more support in group than some classes, others need the same amount of group support. You can’t whine about rock paper scissors PvP and use it as justification for being the best tank and highest DPS. Sorry, former best tank, SoD has changed that part at least. I like warrior, I’ve always enjoyed it, I still think they should be even in dps with every other class with +/-10% variation between classes on average.
Just because you want to be a special little boy with double the dps of some classes doesn’t mean those classes should have to take it. If Warrior isn’t brought into line by phase 3 I personally know a LOT of people who aren’t going to stay for Era 2: Electric Bugaloo. A ton of people are trying SoD because it was promised as Era with better class design and more equal power levels, they even joked about how stupid OP Warrior is at Blizzcon. Get off your Pity Party.
so you know nothing of classic warrior then, nice.
Bla bla bla, i don’t play Warrior bro i just support them.
They Will get nerf in pvp if needed, but i don’t want a casters meta where You’re one shot before You can auto attack. We have enought with the garbage serpent/scorpid and his pet (the hunter), also druid instant cast meta at max range Right now is cringe but pure cringe
LMAO. My level 19 warrior twink on Era says “Hi”. TBC, WotLK, and Cata are all classic. And until Cata, Warrior plays basically exactly the same until you pass 60 and even then doesn’t change drastically until past 70. But go off, keep shifting your goalposts to try to invalidate any argument. That’s all you’re good at is trying to change the narrative to always have a “But….”. You may not like it, but warrior has no justification for having anywhere between 30% to 120% more DPS than other classes.
stay mad buddy. with your logic I should be complaining about how horrible warriors have it on the healing meters! This is outrageous!
Right but it would mean face tanking a lot more damage and killing a lot slower for the average player (one who doesn’t minmax in the AH along the way).
My worry is it would make undergeared casters unbearably bad to level or way overpowered at max (without a ton of broad tunes across the board)
LOL, and now with the false equivalence. You’re just full of logical fallacies today huh?
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They could’ve solved this whole problem by using Cata as the underpinning of SoD. SP from Int, normalized rage for warrior, etc, then just put an Era skin and talents etc onto it. They also should have made SoD a separate client. One can only hope that this is actually just a beta for a real classic+ with actual changes.
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gross, all opinions from you are now invalid
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Good stuff…
Lmao.