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Thats the same song and dance people have been singing for years. The only true dead server I would call would be anything Low pop @ prime time. Which… Is Thalnos.

Yes. Part of choosing a new server IS logging into the server and checking out the wowcensus of the server to see if its a good choice! There are plenty of places you can probably be happy with cuz… Ya know. There are 10 other servers besides those handful that you named based on what you feel are the reasons YOU PERSONALLY would not roll there.

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I haven’t been. Here is my retail rogue just to prove the point.

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Proves nothing.

Also I never said anything about being upset about stuck in a queue. Not sure why you quote me and make that argument.

Then prove I am this other person you claim I am.

I have no proof and never claimed to. I can only go off my own memory, and you deny it. Yet at the same time, you keep making a strawman argument that I am upset about the queues, which you can not prove yourself.

I’m glad you ask.

you say “Basically another pseudo-pve Horde server.”

but in reality…

https://ironforge.pro/server/Incendius/

Your memory is obviously faulty.

If you aren’t upset about the queues, then fair enough.

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Yeah man, clearly Whitemane and Herod have major problems.

Netherwind has queues most every day, but they’re several minutes to maybe 40 minutes nights/weekends. I mean, peaks stink, but not as badly as what you guys and Herod are facing.

The only other major problems are Skeram 99% Horde, Heartseeker 95% Alliance, Incendius 85% Alliance, and Stalagg is extremely imbalanced too. Blizz should start merging Heavy Horde+Heavy Alliance into megaservers, except people would wind up losing character and guild names which would be a fiasco. That’s probably the main reason why they don’t merge anything.

Okay then I have it backwards. It’s a pseudo-pve Alliance server. Changes nothing. There was a mass migration to Netherwind, and it ended up becoming a pseudo-pve Alliance server just like Heartseeker.

I dont see mergers happening until/if TBC rolls out as a separate entity to classic vanilla and the servers drop DRASTICALLY in overall population, not just the single faction

Whitemane is pretty much a meme at this point.

Yeah but people on Whitemane don’t even PvP - especially alliance side - they could just as soon move to a PvE server and play the game almost exactly how they’re playing it now.

The problem on whitemane is there are too many immigrants … we need to build a firewall and make horde pay for it

Don’t confuse not engaging actively in world PvP (which is not true) with not PvPing.

The cold truth is that you want to play on a server without queues just like everybody else, but you want to force people to move off of servers they are established on as the solution. We’ve been there done that… it doesn’t end well and it really didn’t end well 15 years ago for many guilds either.

But with 15 years of technology improvements there is a perfectly viable/fine solution for those servers that would have zero impact on your server or experience unless somehow you feel threatened by the prospect that players would rather move to a mega server with layers instead of staying on a low/medium population server.

Cold hard truth is that you and people like you feel threatened by the prospect of players consolidating on a few mega servers with layering and you just don’t want that because it would somehow ruin your classic experience #nochanges.

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The heck server you play on? It’s not Whitemane because there has been constant world pvp since the influx of dragons. Tons of RVR at BRM.

The hell are you talking about?

This dudes talking out of his butt because there is constant PvP, if he ever left his mudhut he might actually find some.

I’d rather have layering.

So basically the masses don’t actually want pvp servers. They think they do and yet these servers all inevitably become pseudo-PVE. Pvp servers died in actual vanilla for the same reason.

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